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cwill



I'm neither. Is this like when a spouse accuses you of cheating because they are projecting their guilt?






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cwill
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Not sure what you're getting at...maybe you should read the rest of my posts in this thread and try again.





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The General
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One of the best posts I have ever read on here


Thank you. I don't post often, but when I do I do it with Dos Equis. Stay off the OT my friend.






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Zach
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Sorry for being long, but the OP hit a nerve.

Your post sounds very familiar but I would add one item. A lot of skilled workers who don't have the stuff they 'wish they had' around Shreveport gave it to the casinos.






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mograyback
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I would like to add to the "coveting" aspect. I currently have 105 employees with 85 in the Local Union. A couple of my young Union employees were watching me load my vehicle for a family trip out in the shop yard at the end of the day this past summer. I had the vehicle professionally cleaned that day so my wife would not bitch. One young man (under 25) said he wished he could afford to have his truck "detailed" and the other two chimed in also, which lead to a lot of "I wish I could afford" and a comment "you are lucky." This set me off. I know what each man earns, including benefits and the other perks we provide. They make a good living for their skills and will make more with experience.

So we got into a conversation about choices. Mainly me talking and them lower their eyes. One young man is on his third Chevy loaded truck in five years, owns a boat that you would see the Bass Masters and he lives in a mobile home with a baby on the way.

The one who made the comment about the "detail" cleaning and said he could not afford such an expense, had a pack of Cigs in his shirt pocket and a nice set of tattoos on both arms. I was told his back is covered but I have never seen it and I don't care. But he makes that choice, I choose not to smoke, get tattoos, drink a lot, etc.

I told them that the choices they make have consequences. They made a good choice to get into a trade that will always be in demand but are screwing up by complaining about what other people do or have. I went over the costs of their choices - Tattos, Smokes, a new truck almost every 18 months, boat costs, decreasing value of a manufactured home, costs of Credit (they have huge credit card bills), etc. Quit looking at everyone else and "wishing I could that", but look at yourself and start making good decisions. My "luck" they wished they had including busting my arse in school to get a college scholarship, then to moving away from family to go to law school. My new wife working two jobs while I finished my last year. Then taking loans to start a business. Amazingly, they did not want to swap their personal debt for my name on the bank LOC.

Sorry for being long, but the OP hit a nerve. I know CSB.


Your post is accurate. There is a reason it makes great sense. There is a reason others think it's fantastic. It's truth.

There is always more to it though..

There are plenty of people grinding it out everyday with no real vices who can't afford many luxuries.

And there are a lot (to be conservative) of well off people who do not do much at all.

So your little story isn't inaccurate, and it is correct within the realities you shared.. but there is a lot more to reality.



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Posted by cwill I mostly see a lot of unhappy Republicans....and if this board is any indication, they're not only unhappy, they are very, very angry.


...for the exact opposite reason of jealousy. It's as if you don't even understand what is being discussed.






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All what was "traditional values" that built our nation are now hated and despised because those who have gained power in taking from the producer and rewarding the non-producers have created this so they could obtain complete power over us. They're about to cross the finish to line in their quest.





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mograyback
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All what was "traditional values" that built our nation are now hated and despised because those who have gained power in taking from the producer and rewarding the non-producers have created this so they could obtain complete power over us. They're about to cross the finish to line in their quest.


You sound an awful lot like my friend who fell off a balcony and landed on his head.






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KrushGroove
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Draw a big circle. Label the circle 'normal.' Outside of the circle is 'want to be normal.'

Now what are the groups that make up the coalition of liberals:

Blacks... looking into the circle that is a majority white.

Gays...looking into the circle that is a majority hetero.

Poor.. looking into the circle that is a majority non-poor.

Same thing with single women. They look at married women and feel envious.
Same thing with unions. They look at management and feel envious.

All of these group share one thing in common. They are not happy with 'the way life is.'

It's the same reason why liberal feminists tend to be ugly. It's not fair that the world treats beautiful women better. So, unhappy ugly women tend more to feminist activist groups.


Spin us young'uns another yarn, gran pappy






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VOR
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People today are no more envious or contemptuous of the upper classes than they were a hundred years ago. To think otherwise is foolish.





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RCDfan1950
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Cain and Abel, buddy. Old as the hills.







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cwill
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...for the exact opposite reason of jealousy. It's as if you don't even understand what is being discussed.


It's as if you didn't read the OP and all of my posts in this thread.






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The General
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I agree with you that many people are grinding it out with no vices and still struggle. My concern, as I see with my employees, is the younger ones desire for everything now, covet their older co-workers status and those in the office and of the owners. These young men want the boat, deer lease, new truck, smart phone, etc. NOW and it someone else's fault if they don't have it. The concepts of what is "work" and the "reward" for work has shifted and even the union employees who are my age and older see it.

As it relates to the OP, there is no guarantee of equal outcomes. I believe that the demonizing of the successful is creating a social cancer. I have had employees leave the company and start a new business. I have wished them luck and shook their hand. A few have been successful and many have not, but they tried to create their own success. This attitude needs to be encouraged! There are too many politicians and "leaders" that who seek votes and control by demonizing the success of the risk takers.









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Zach
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Spin us young'uns another yarn, gran pappy

Which observation is incorrect, Whipper Snapper?






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BigJim
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People today are no more envious or contemptuous of the upper classes than they were a hundred years ago. To think otherwise is foolish.


Yes, but the amount of that envy that is reflected in policy does change over the years.






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Taxing Authority
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Thoughts?
Troof.

You can not be truly free
Until you can look at your neighbors wealth
With joy, not jealousy

Karl Denson.






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