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StevieRayVol 
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| "Southeastern Connections".... (Posted on 12/7/12 at 9:57 am)
Did Nick Saban have connections in the SEC when he was hired away from Michigan State? Urban Meyer away from Utah? The "HAT" is a Michigan Man? Surround Jones with a good staff and think he can't win at UT? I believe he will do alright...
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jcole4lsu 
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| re: "Southeastern Connections".... (Posted on 12/7/12 at 10:01 am to StevieRayVol)
You realize you just compared butch fricking jones to two of the best, if not the two best, college head coaches today? Plus "the hat" had spent several years at Okie State - so referring to him as a "Michigan Man" for this discussion is being intellectually dishonest.
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RollTide1987 
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| re: "Southeastern Connections".... (Posted on 12/7/12 at 10:03 am to StevieRayVol)
Saban and Meyer didn't need "Southeastern Connections" because their programs were located inside two of the most talent-rich states in the entire country.
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cjared036
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| re: "Southeastern Connections".... (Posted on 12/7/12 at 10:03 am to jcole4lsu)
I want Tennessee to get this hire right.
I hope y'all open the pocket book for assistant coaches.
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StevieRayVol
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| re: "Southeastern Connections".... (Posted on 12/7/12 at 10:04 am to jcole4lsu)
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You realize you just compared Butch fricking jones to two of the best, if not the two best , college football coaches today?
Was Saban considered one of "THE BEST COACHES IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL" when he was hired away from Michigan State?..  Did Florida Fans think Urban Meyer was one of the best college football coaches ever when he was hired away from Utah? Think about it..
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parkjas2001 
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| re: "Southeastern Connections".... (Posted on 12/7/12 at 10:05 am to RollTide1987)
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Saban and Meyer didn't need "Southeastern Connections" because their programs were located inside two of the most talent-rich states in the entire country.
That is absolutely correct for Meyer but Saban coaches in the State of Alabama.
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StevieRayVol
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| re: "Southeastern Connections".... (Posted on 12/7/12 at 10:06 am to RollTide1987)
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Saban and Meyer didn't need "SOUTHEASTERN CONNECTIONS" because their programs were located inside two of the most talent -rich states in the entire country.
Then why didn't Curly Hallman and Ron Zook win big then if all it takes is talent?
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jcole4lsu
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| re: "Southeastern Connections".... (Posted on 12/7/12 at 10:11 am to StevieRayVol)
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Think about it..
maybe you should think about the fact you just compared a serial coat tail rider to meyer and saban 
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| re: "Southeastern Connections".... (Posted on 12/7/12 at 10:12 am to StevieRayVol)
bielema or jones need to call larry porter
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Supravol22
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| re: "Southeastern Connections".... (Posted on 12/7/12 at 10:18 am to cjared036)
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I hope y'all open the pocket book for assistant coaches.
It's a six year deal for 18 million. We should be able to give him a ton of cash for assistants.
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CapstoneGrad06
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| re: "Southeastern Connections".... (Posted on 12/7/12 at 10:23 am to StevieRayVol)
Nick Saban had marquee wins at Michigan State. As well as a turnaround at Toledo (he didn't inherit a winner). As well as several years in the NFL as DB coach and defensive coordinator. Don't compare Butch Jones to him.
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CapstoneGrad06
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| re: "Southeastern Connections".... (Posted on 12/7/12 at 10:25 am to parkjas2001)
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That is absolutely correct for Meyer but Saban coaches in the State of Alabama.
The state of Alabama has lots of talent in most years. But the bigger factor for the UA job is the amount of talent within a 500 mile radius.
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parkjas2001
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| re: "Southeastern Connections".... (Posted on 12/7/12 at 10:32 am to CapstoneGrad06)
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The state of Alabama has lots of talent in most years
It does but not to the extent of the poster that I was respnding implied.
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But the bigger factor for the UA job is the amount of talent within a 500 mile radius.
This...is very much true.
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CtotheVrzrbck
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| re: "Southeastern Connections".... (Posted on 12/7/12 at 10:34 am to StevieRayVol)
Butch Jones will be in over his head from day 1 and won't be given the opportunity to fix it unless he beats some big dogs in year one.
Have the normal rebuilding/trasitional year in 2013 and it'll be over before it starts.
UT thanks for keeping our big 6 chair warm for a few months, we'll be taking that back now.
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jcole4lsu
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| re: "Southeastern Connections".... (Posted on 12/7/12 at 10:37 am to CtotheVrzrbck)
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UT thanks for keeping our big 6 chair warm for a few months, we'll be taking that back now.
back? doesnt that imply you had it at one time?
refresh my memory, how many SEC football titles does arky have?
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TigerBait2008 
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| re: "Southeastern Connections".... (Posted on 12/7/12 at 10:47 am to CtotheVrzrbck)
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Butch Jones will be in over his head from day 1 and won't be given the opportunity to fix it unless he beats some big dogs in year one.
So will your new head piggy.
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UT thanks for keeping our big 6 chair warm for a few months
Would never qualify, Tenn has nothing to worry about.
This post was edited on 12/7 at 10:48 am
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RollTide1987
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| re: "Southeastern Connections".... (Posted on 12/7/12 at 11:17 am to parkjas2001)
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It does but not to the extent of the poster that I was respnding implied.
I was speaking of Saban's time in Louisiana, not his present day job at Alabama. He is able to recruit at the level he is currently at with UA because of his success at LSU.
This post was edited on 12/7 at 11:18 am
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StevieRayVol
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| re: "Southeastern Connections".... (Posted on 12/7/12 at 11:17 am to CapstoneGrad06)
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Nick Saban had marquee wins at Michigan State.
Nobody is denying this..But everyone is screaming Jones doesn't know anything about the SEC...Did Saban or Meyer before they came to LSU and Florida is what I'm saying..LSU fan's didn't want Saban and Florida fans were screaming when Spurrier didn't get rehired after Zook and they "SETTLED FOR MEYER"...
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RollTide1987
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| re: "Southeastern Connections".... (Posted on 12/7/12 at 11:21 am to StevieRayVol)
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But everyone is screaming Jones doesn't know anything about the SEC
No one is screaming this.
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LSU fan's didn't want Saban
He was hired before the age of message boards, how can you possibly know what LSU fans thought of Saban when he was hired back in 1999?
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Florida fans were screaming when Spurrier didn't get rehired after Zook and they "SETTLED FOR MEYER"...
Meyer was the most sought after coach in all of college football in 2004. He was 34-6 while the head coach at Utah and had just got done leading them to an undefeated regular season and a berth in the Fiesta Bowl. Both Florida AND Notre Dame threw everything but the kitchen sink to get Meyer to their program.
This post was edited on 12/7 at 11:24 am
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LSU82BILL
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| re: "Southeastern Connections".... (Posted on 12/7/12 at 11:29 am to parkjas2001)
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That is absolutely correct for Meyer but Saban coaches in the State of Alabama.
He was talking about when Saban left Michigan State to go to LSU......which has more talent per capita and no serious in state recruiting rival......hence, no need for connections.
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