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pistolpete23 
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| Michigan governor vows to OK right-to-work legislation(Updated Bill passes) (Posted on 12/6/12 at 2:26 pm)
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Gov. Rick Snyder said Thursday he is prepared to sign legislation that would make Michigan the nation's 24th right-to-work state when the bills get to his desk.
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"The goal isn't to divide Michigan. It is to bring Michigan together," the governor said, as hundreds of union protesters stormed the Capitol and the governor's office, voicing their opposition to the plan.
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Michigan House approves "right-to-work" bill to weaken unions
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The Michigan House on Thursday voted to approve a "right-to-work" bill that would weaken labor union powers after Democratic representatives left the chambers in protest at the decision earlier to lock the state Capitol doors.
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PsychTiger 
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| re: Michigan governor vows to OK right-to-work legislation(Updated Bill passes) (Posted on 12/6/12 at 2:30 pm to pistolpete23)
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tigeraddict
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| re: Michigan governor vows to OK right-to-work legislation(Updated Bill passes) (Posted on 12/6/12 at 2:33 pm to pistolpete23)
what is the world coming to when a Union Bastion state like Michigan is talking this.....
maybe there is hope yet....
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ZereauxSum
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| re: Michigan governor vows to OK right-to-work legislation(Updated Bill passes) (Posted on 12/6/12 at 2:33 pm to pistolpete23)
:michiganwinning:
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| re: Michigan governor vows to OK right-to-work legislation(Updated Bill passes) (Posted on 12/6/12 at 2:36 pm to ZereauxSum)
hissy fit recall push in 3..2..1
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Jbird 
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| re: Michigan governor vows to OK right-to-work legislation(Updated Bill passes) (Posted on 12/6/12 at 2:38 pm to pistolpete23)
A new American hero! 
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lsu13lsu
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| re: Michigan governor vows to OK right-to-work legislation(Updated Bill passes) (Posted on 12/6/12 at 2:39 pm to pistolpete23)
If Unions are what is best then why do they fear competition?
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dewster 
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| re: Michigan governor vows to OK right-to-work legislation(Updated Bill passes) (Posted on 12/6/12 at 2:45 pm to lsu13lsu)
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If Unions are what is best then why do they fear competition?
The screwed up part...."right to work" doesn't spell the end for unions. They are still allowed, they just are not going to be mandatory for employment.
The correct question is "if union boses are so confident in the benefits of membership, then why worry at all?"
This is a great move for employee rights. 
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| re: Michigan governor vows to OK right-to-work legislation(Updated Bill passes) (Posted on 12/6/12 at 2:46 pm to pistolpete23)
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Bunk Moreland 
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| re: Michigan governor vows to OK right-to-work legislation(Updated Bill passes) (Posted on 12/6/12 at 2:54 pm to pistolpete23)
Popkern is right. I am a union side attorney in Detroit. As the Wayne County Executive said today, this will be a civil war. Once Michigan goes, you may as well just kill unions nationwide.
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ZereauxSum
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| re: Michigan governor vows to OK right-to-work legislation(Updated Bill passes) (Posted on 12/6/12 at 2:56 pm to Bunk Moreland)
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Once Michigan goes, you may as well just kill unions nationwide.
Serious question...why is that? I thought right to work just meant that a union shop couldn't force new employees to join.
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Janky
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| re: Michigan governor vows to OK right-to-work legislation(Updated Bill passes) (Posted on 12/6/12 at 2:57 pm to Bunk Moreland)
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this will be a civil war
Lets light this candle!
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| re: Michigan governor vows to OK right-to-work legislation(Updated Bill passes) (Posted on 12/6/12 at 3:00 pm to Bunk Moreland)
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I am a union side attorney in Detroit. As the Wayne County Executive said today, this will be a civil war. Once Michigan goes, you may as well just kill unions nationwide.
So, I’m guessing you’re pretty excited by this news then? You’re about to get paid. You win either way.
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Bunk Moreland
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| re: Michigan governor vows to OK right-to-work legislation(Updated Bill passes) (Posted on 12/6/12 at 3:01 pm to ZereauxSum)
The reason I don't think it's necessary is that you already had a right to opt out of paying for dues that aren't for contract negotiation or grievance adjustment -- in other words, no political stuff. Now, everyone can be a free rider. There is some argument that it will make unions more accountable to the membership because they will pay dues if they are satisfied with their service, but I don't buy it. I can't speak to the public union angle as I am not well-versed in that world.
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LSUisLIFE6
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| re: Michigan governor vows to OK right-to-work legislation(Updated Bill passes) (Posted on 12/6/12 at 3:02 pm to ZZTIGERS)
If it was up to Repubs there would be no labor laws. We would go back to the Industrial Revolution times. Let those hard working self made billionaire entrepreneurs do whatever they want to the rest of us.
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| re: Michigan governor vows to OK right-to-work legislation(Updated Bill passes) (Posted on 12/6/12 at 3:02 pm to Bunk Moreland)
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Popkern is right. I am a union side attorney in Detroit. As the Wayne County Executive said today, this will be a civil war. Once Michigan goes, you may as well just kill unions nationwide.
I'll break out singing "Ding Dong the Witch is Dead!"
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Jbird
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| re: Michigan governor vows to OK right-to-work legislation(Updated Bill passes) (Posted on 12/6/12 at 3:03 pm to LSUisLIFE6)
Hyperbole gotta Hyper. 
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| re: Michigan governor vows to OK right-to-work legislation(Updated Bill passes) (Posted on 12/6/12 at 3:03 pm to LSUisLIFE6)
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If it was up to Repubs there would be no labor laws. We would go back to the Industrial Revolution times. Let those hard working self made billionaire entrepreneurs do whatever they want to the rest of us.
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Janky
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| re: Michigan governor vows to OK right-to-work legislation(Updated Bill passes) (Posted on 12/6/12 at 3:04 pm to LSUisLIFE6)
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If it was up to Repubs there would be no labor laws. We would go back to the Industrial Revolution times. Let those hard working self made billionaire entrepreneurs do whatever they want to the rest of us.
I know right. That would be after they kill all the puppies first, so you have time to adjust.
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Jbird
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| re: Michigan governor vows to OK right-to-work legislation(Updated Bill passes) (Posted on 12/6/12 at 3:07 pm to Janky)
Well they haven't finished the drowning of the kittens yet, they will get there soon enough. 
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