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BamaFan89 
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| re: Piers Morgan v. Carol Roth on the 2nd Amendment (Posted on 12/6/12 at 11:39 am to DrEdgeLSU)
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the government
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I don't think the writers of the 2nd Amendment to the constitution had street thugs and criminals in mind when it was written
What's the difference?
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DWaginHTown
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| re: Piers Morgan v. Carol Roth on the 2nd Amendment (Posted on 12/6/12 at 11:39 am to tLSU)
when does his work visa expire?
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| re: Piers Morgan v. Carol Roth on the 2nd Amendment (Posted on 12/6/12 at 11:44 am to DrEdgeLSU)
I would think they did in fact. The protection of life and limb was definitely a part of thier thinking from the get go. The frontier lands at the time didn't come with a phone to call the police to stop what is now considered "home invasion", and remember those perpatrators were either just thives and robbers or indians pissed off for some reason.
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Tchefuncte Tiger 
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| re: Piers Morgan v. Carol Roth on the 2nd Amendment (Posted on 12/6/12 at 11:45 am to los angeles tiger)
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People like Costa never think about those that live in more rural America that don't have a police station a couple of blocks away from their house. They only think about the city life not rural life.
"People in the city can call 9-1-1. Out here, I AM 9-1-1." Phil Robertson 
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LSURussian
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| re: Piers Morgan v. Carol Roth on the 2nd Amendment (Posted on 12/6/12 at 11:47 am to BamaFan89)
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What's the difference?
Too late....
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TrueTiger
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| re: Piers Morgan v. Carol Roth on the 2nd Amendment (Posted on 12/6/12 at 11:50 am to Tchefuncte Tiger)
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People in the city can call 9-1-1
To often the 9-1-1 call only serves to let the authorities know where to deliver the body bags.
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BamaFan89
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| re: Piers Morgan v. Carol Roth on the 2nd Amendment (Posted on 12/6/12 at 11:59 am to LSURussian)
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Too late....
Ehh, it's still applicable. Even when it's a little late. 
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Antonio Moss
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| re: Piers Morgan v. Carol Roth on the 2nd Amendment (Posted on 12/6/12 at 12:18 pm to DrEdgeLSU)
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Wasn't the main intention of the 2nd Amendment to allow the populace to arm and protect itself from the government?
Yes.
The Bill of Rights is a blanket protection from tyranny.
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LittlebyLittle 
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| re: Piers Morgan v. Carol Roth on the 2nd Amendment (Posted on 12/6/12 at 12:20 pm to DrEdgeLSU)
Did anyone see the #ss-raping he got from Jesse Ventura?...it was awesome
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doubleb
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| re: Piers Morgan v. Carol Roth on the 2nd Amendment (Posted on 12/6/12 at 12:22 pm to Antonio Moss)
Too many people love to play wordsmith and write laws to get arround the Constitution instead of just coming at a problem using the Constitution.
If we need to amend the Constitution there is a procedure, but making up fairy tales to change the Constitution to fit your agenda is un-American.
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los angeles tiger
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| re: Piers Morgan v. Carol Roth on the 2nd Amendment (Posted on 12/6/12 at 12:24 pm to Antonio Moss)
Funny how the usual suspects come out for more gun control while at the same time say it is impossible for our government to control our border, in which we have the great number of gang members in L.A. come from that use those guns that they get from their Cartel hoodies which the Obama administration provided in Fast and Furious.
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DrEdgeLSU
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| re: Piers Morgan v. Carol Roth on the 2nd Amendment (Posted on 12/6/12 at 12:25 pm to CITWTT)
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I would think they did in fact. The protection of life and limb was definitely a part of thier thinking from the get go. The frontier lands at the time didn't come with a phone to call the police to stop what is now considered "home invasion", and remember those perpatrators were either just thives and robbers or indians pissed off for some reason.
That's why there were laws against murder, etc, and why laws have evolved to allow for the protection of one's property.
The 2nd amendment was written to give people the right to own weapons AND to prevent the government from attempting to take that right away. It wasn't written so people could stop drug dealers from home invasions.
Now, if it is interpreted as such so I can have a gun in my home to protect myself from such a thing, great. But that's not why it was written into the Constitution vs. written into criminal statutes.
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BamaFan89
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| re: Piers Morgan v. Carol Roth on the 2nd Amendment (Posted on 12/6/12 at 12:28 pm to DrEdgeLSU)
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The 2nd amendment was written to give people the right to own weapons AND to prevent the government from attempting to take that right away
Wrong. It protects our right to own weapons; it doesn't grant us that right.
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It wasn't written so people could stop drug dealers from home invasions.
Right. It merely protects our means for self-defense (which is a natural right).
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Now, if it is interpreted as such so I can have a gun in my home to protect myself from such a thing, great.
It already has been. Ever heard of DC v. Heller?
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District of Columbia v. Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008), was a landmark case in which the Supreme Court of the United States held that the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution protects an individual's right to possess a firearm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home, in federal enclaves. The decision did not address the question of whether the Second Amendment extends beyond federal enclaves to the states,[1] which was addressed later by McDonald v. Chicago (2010). It was the first Supreme Court case in United States history to decide whether the Second Amendment protects an individual right to keep and bear arms.
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los angeles tiger
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| re: Piers Morgan v. Carol Roth on the 2nd Amendment (Posted on 12/6/12 at 12:30 pm to DrEdgeLSU)
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The 2nd amendment was written to give people the right to own weapons AND to prevent the government from attempting to take that right away. It wasn't written so people could stop drug dealers from home invasions.
Our rights don't come from the government. They come from our Creator as stated in the Declaration of Independence.
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DrEdgeLSU
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| re: Piers Morgan v. Carol Roth on the 2nd Amendment (Posted on 12/6/12 at 12:36 pm to BamaFan89)
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It protects our right to own weapons; it doesn't grant us that right.
Fair enough. Agree with everything else said. I was only referring to the overarching intention at its ratification. The US was creating its own government, in part to escape the tyranny of the throne.
It's really an ingenious concept to create a constitution that is designed to limit the power of government.
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jacquespene8
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| re: Piers Morgan v. Carol Roth on the 2nd Amendment (Posted on 12/6/12 at 12:50 pm to DrEdgeLSU)
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Wasn't the main intention of the 2nd Amendment to allow the populace to arm and protect itself from the government? So, in the event of a hostile takeover attempt by the armed services and the government, the people would be able to rebel and protect themselves?
Yes.
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