Following someone, even if dumb, is NOT instigating a PHYSICAL confrontation. Hell, if I walked up to you and said "hey, you're not from this neighborhood, what are you doing" and you got pissed and started to pummell me, I didn't fricking start that shite.
Your right, but how do you know for sure who pummelled who first? You may hit me first and I may still kick you butt.
We don't. But we DO KNOW beyond any reasonable doubt that Trayvon turned back because if he hadn't, he gets home in sub 30 seconds. PERIOD
You may be correct that he didn't go inside his house. What does that provide. There is no law that says you cannot be outside once returning from the store.
Zimmerman said he was walking back to his truck. Once again, his story.
Once again, what I consider self defense and what you consider self defense may differ.
Not many. But I do know some and when I was in Alaska, I saw it all the time.
Well maybe this is common in Alaska but I can honsetly say that where I live I have not seen this.
He never said he was going to "pursue" him. He simply wanted to be able to see where TM was going. He was at some distance and armed. Why would this be a big deal to him? Wouldn't be to me.
Well I think I would put my safety above all else. If I think somebody is "up to no good", "acting strange" or "looks suspicious", I would probably be thinking this person could possibly be a danger, so I definitely am not going to go following him, that the job of a police officer.
Well based on Mr. Zimmerman's description of the "suspicious" person and his "knowledge" that supposedly there had been some recent burglaries in the area, I would think he knowing should be aware of the "potential" danger for confronting this individual and should have just called 911 and made sure he was safe. He made a conscious choice to follow him.
What transpired after he got out of the truck, is anybody's guess. How did the young man know that Zimmerman was following him? I'm I to assume that this young man would approach anybody that was behind him for no apparent reason and pummell them? Was that his typical behavior? If he really only stepped out to go to the store and he realized that he was being followed, did he fell threatened? Did he turn around and go back just to ask Zimmerman why he was following him and see that Zimmerman had a gun and then felt that his life was in danger? What if he was only trying to defend himself? For me, those would be the questions running through my mind.
Now on the other hand, if a person is sitting in their house and someone breaks in then I believe you have a right to protect yourself and use deadly force if necessary and that would fit my definition of self defense.
I do get where you are coming from and I respect your take/view and understand that Florida has the "stand your ground" law. I just don't necessarily agree with it. This case seems to fit the very reasons that I don't agree with it. Mr. Zimmerman, by his own account, sole purpose for coming into contact with the other young man was because he thought he was "up to no good" and "looked" suspicious. By his own actions, he put himself in a situation to "feel" threatened. Which simply brings me back to the simple question, did the young man have a history of attacking people that followed behind him at any other time. If not, what provoked him to turn around and attack Mr. Zimmerman without any reason.