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samson73103 
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| re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias (Posted on 12/4/12 at 9:17 pm to larry289)
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Statestreet 
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| re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias (Posted on 12/4/12 at 9:23 pm to GeauxTigerTM)
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geauxTigerTM
Great post
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DocBugbear
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| re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias (Posted on 12/4/12 at 9:23 pm to Stingray)
Instead of this analysis, I'd recommend another couple things you can do. 1) Take LSU and Alabama and compare penalties per game in SEC games vs, non-SEC games where other refs are used with the same teams. And 2) Rather than just look at penalties called on the teams, I'd look at the rate at which penalties are called on the opposition.
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larry289
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Member since Nov 2009
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| re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias (Posted on 12/4/12 at 9:27 pm to TexasTiger1185)
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And your watching with a referees experience and zero bias, correct?
Anticipated this exact response...so here you go. Experience many moons past was in peewee football, so it's hard to gain credibility, but the 3D glasses minimized any inherent bias.
Hope this clarifies for ya! When you are my age it's easy to reduce bias...seem to see the world a little clearer nowadays.
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Mohican
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On a lake in MS
Member since Nov 2012
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| re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias (Posted on 12/4/12 at 9:43 pm to DocBugbear)
I agree that the analysis should go deeper, but this is a good start.
It should be a near statistical impossibility for Alabama to have less penalties EVERY SINGLE YEAR for 10 years given the change in variables.
Different coaches, the same coach during two different time periods with each team, different players, etc. Penalties per game should not be such a consistent outcome between two teams unless there is a bias. It would be an amazing coincidence for these results to be this consistent every single year for 10 years.
I don't know if its a conspiracy or not, but it is NOT a coincidence. There is an explanation. The explanation should not be that Bama is the more disciplined team, considering that the coaching/player variable has changed, and even been exercised at both places.
Keep digging.
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Meauxjeaux 
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| re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias (Posted on 12/4/12 at 9:50 pm to jrodLSUke)
Man, I always love that gif and think it needs to be watched 30 times in a row to really let the reality sink in...  
ETA: Four, FOUR count em, foot moves and still a spot 5 inches further past the foot.
This post was edited on 12/4 at 9:52 pm
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DocBugbear
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| re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias (Posted on 12/4/12 at 9:51 pm to Mohican)
I don't think it's a conspiracy. It's just simple bias. The SEC offices are in Alabama. Consequently most of the refs are from Alabama. Every day they hear that every call against Bama was a bad call. It has to affect them.
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Stingray
LSU Fan
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
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| re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias (Posted on 12/4/12 at 9:53 pm to Mohican)
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Mohican
this guy gets it
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Statestreet
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| re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias (Posted on 12/4/12 at 9:54 pm to DocBugbear)
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I don't think it's a conspiracy. It's just simple bias. The SEC offices are in Alabama. Consequently most of the refs are from Alabama. Every day they hear that every call against Bama was a bad call. It has to affect them.
I see it as blatant and intentional.
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La Place Mike
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| re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias (Posted on 12/4/12 at 10:10 pm to Stingray)
Not much evidence here. Now if you could show that for the past 10 years Bama was the least penalized team in the SEC year after year you might have something.
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Funky Tide 8
Alabama Fan
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| re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias (Posted on 12/4/12 at 10:12 pm to Statestreet)
 :wah: :wah:
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DocBugbear
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| re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias (Posted on 12/4/12 at 10:28 pm to Funky Tide 8)
Go back to the SECR gump...
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GeauxTigerTM
LSU Fan
Member since Sep 2006
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| re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias (Posted on 12/4/12 at 10:29 pm to Meauxjeaux)
My favorite part of that gif is him turning to look over his left shoulder, not seeing the down marker, than looking back to his right and finding the marker so that he could nudge it to the stick.
It's so ridiculous you'd assume someone Photoshopped the yard marker back there.
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cwsec
Member since Feb 2012
100 posts
| re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias (Posted on 12/4/12 at 11:10 pm to MoreOrLes)
Just stop it please !!! It just makes Lsu fans look bad.
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Stingray
LSU Fan
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
3454 posts
| re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias (Posted on 12/4/12 at 11:13 pm to cwsec)
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Just stop it please !!! It just makes Lsu fans look bad.
u whining about my whining?
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TutHillTiger
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Member since Sep 2010
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| re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias (Posted on 12/4/12 at 11:41 pm to harry coleman beast)
Have you run a comparison in penalties on Bama in sec games vs bowl games and ooc with no sec officials
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dante
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Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
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| re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias (Posted on 12/5/12 at 12:03 am to TutHillTiger)
What really needs to be done is compare all subjective penalties vs non subjective penalties for bama. Offsides and procedure should not count for any teams in this study! Only the penalties that rely on the officials opinion... PI, holding, pf etc.
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biglego
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| re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias (Posted on 12/5/12 at 12:09 am to cwsec)
Damn now we can't even comment about documented stats without being called whiners? Are you really so unconfident in your manhood? Weird.
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tigerfan4120
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| re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias (Posted on 12/5/12 at 12:18 am to dante)
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What really needs to be done is compare all subjective penalties vs non subjective penalties for bama. Offsides and procedure should not count for any teams in this study! Only the penalties that rely on the officials opinion... PI, holding, pf etc.
very fair point. My guess is that would skew the statistics further in bama's favor.
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YouAre8Up
LSU Fan
New Orleans, La.
Member since Mar 2011
294 posts
| re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias (Posted on 12/5/12 at 6:50 am to tigerfan4120)
good lord....... if anybody believes this, is dumb. 
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