Posted byMessage
Stingray
LSU Fan
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
4568 posts

Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias


I performed a t test comparing the penalties called on LSU and Alabama during the regular season over the ten years from 2003 to 2012. I took the data of penalties each game from the official LSU and Alabama sites. Over this period each team played 118 games.

LSU's penalties per year goes like this: 89, 73, 74, 76, 76, 104, 74, 91, 67, 89.
Alabama's penalties per year: 48, 48, 63, 63, 48, 55, 70, 70, 66, 69.

LSU's average penalties per game is 6.8898.
Alabama's average penalties per game is 5.0847.

Using the t test comparing all the games, I get a p value of 0.0001! This means that there is certainly a difference between the penalties of these two teams. The important question is why?

I see two possible explanations.
1. Alabama is a more disciplined team. I find this to be highly unlikely as they would have to be more disciplined consistently of over a ten year period which included multiple different coaches on each team, including one coach who coached at both schools!
2. There is a bias for Alabama. This is much more likely. It would not take a conspiracy, just the subtle bias that is a result of the current structure of the SEC head offices. Also seems likely when we look at the other areas where Alabama seems to have created an advantage for itself.







Back to top
Share:
Elleshoe
Southeastern LA Fan
Founder of the Boxtard Nation
Member since Jun 2004
121663 posts

re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias


get a new hobby.





Back to top
CQQ
LSU Fan
LC
Member since Feb 2006
10587 posts

re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias








Back to top
CreoleGumbo
LSU Fan
Faubourg Bayou St. John
Member since Sep 2003
1627 posts

re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias


go on......





Back to top
YouAre8Up
LSU Fan
New Orleans, La.
Member since Mar 2011
975 posts

re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias


wow..... really? Do you see men in black suits following you around also?





Back to top
Big Lake
LSU Fan
Member since Jul 2011
3838 posts

re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias


Do you have ISDS tomorrow too?




shite like this needs to stop you are embarrassing us.






Back to top
BayouBandit24
New Orleans Saints Fan
Member since Aug 2010
11382 posts
 Online 

re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias








Back to top
Meauxjeaux
Memphis Fan
Team Vag
Member since Jun 2005
16203 posts

re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias


quote:

89


And if dumbarse JC Copeland doesn't get the personal foul, we have 88 and are in the BCSCG.

So there.







Back to top
MoreOrLes
LSU Fan
Member since Nov 2008
16520 posts

re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias


Of course its Biased towards bama.


Just find any coach or Oline player at any level and ask them if its possible to go a whole year without a holding call. Then tell them that bama did it in 09.

Hilarity or a perplexed look will ensue.



This post was edited on 12/4 at 2:25 pm


Back to top
FreddieMac
LSU Fan
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
1526 posts

re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias


Interesting, This includes Non Saban years which would suggest its more bias than coaching given no one would say Shula was a coach that inspired discipline...





Back to top
228Tiger
LSU Fan
Harrison County
Member since Feb 2012
12112 posts

re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias


make it stop





Back to top
whomewhat
LSU Fan
Member since Jan 2004
750 posts

re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias


It is amazing how much more disciplined Saban's teams became when he left LSU. If your numbers are correct he had more penalties in 2003 and 2004 at LSU than he's ever had Alabama. Likewise Shula, that legend of a coach had fewer penalties at Bama than LSU has ever had during the years you listed.





Back to top
Stingray
LSU Fan
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2007
4568 posts

re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias


quote:

Of course its Biased towards bama


I agree, but mention that to some LSU fans and they think you are a conspiracy nut. I thought some hard evidence might adjust their perspective.






Back to top
Baloo
LSU Fan
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
43031 posts

re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias


No, the presentation of objective data into the conversation only shows you are a conspiracy nut. Terrible catch-22. Either you're making it up or you're obsessed.





Back to top
hg
Toledo Fan
Member since Jun 2009
65826 posts

re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias








Back to top
CptBengal
USA Fan
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
35833 posts

re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias


quote:

I performed a t test comparing the penalties called on LSU and Alabama during the regular season over the ten years from 2003 to 2012. I took the data of penalties each game from the official LSU and Alabama sites. Over this period each team played 118 games.



awful method.

You should compare the penalties against the same teams using a mutivariate ANOVA with an auto-regressive error structure.

You probability value for the tail of 0.0001 seems absurd anyway. Did you use a 1 or two tailed test? What was your null hypothesis?






Back to top
GeauxTigerTM
LSU Fan
Member since Sep 2006
10902 posts

re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias


Hope you don't mind, but I'm gonna dump this here too. This breaks it down a little differently.



As you stated, it doesn't seem to matter who the coach is, what the team's record is, etc. BAMA gets penalized less BY FAR than LSU.






Back to top
whoisnickdoobs
LSU Fan
Lafayette
Member since Apr 2012
569 posts

re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias








Back to top
Ghostfacedistiller
USA Fan
BR
Member since Jun 2008
13907 posts

re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias


All games or just SEC games?







Back to top
harry coleman beast
LSU Fan
Left Field
Member since Aug 2008
35905 posts
 Online 

re: Evidence Strongly Suggesting Alabama Officiating Bias


I've had enough








Back to top



Back to top