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GumboPot
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No. He clearly campaigned on rolling back Bush tax cuts.


Okay, I'll concede that point but he did also say he wants to increase revenues. Obama is always hedging. That is fine skill of his. He is difficult to nailed down on a particular issue. He always creates political wiggle room for himself.

Example:
"The terrorist acts prompted by the video",Obama. So Benghazi was caused by terrorism and the video.






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Newbomb Turk
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I'm pretty sure it's being rejected b/c the Bush tax cut rollback for those making > 250k was excluded. Obama may have mentioned a time or two that this is a requirement.



And, morons don't dare to f*cking question their Messiah --







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a want
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Ok, so roll them back..m6or everyone. Or was bush such a champion of the middle class that he put in some tax cuts that really helped them? Because that wasn't the narrative too long ago.


Yeah, I think they should probably all be rolled back. But the rollbacks should be phased in over 3 years.

This guy has a pretty good idea.

In short, he says to roll back bush cuts (phase in over 3 years) and phase in cuts don't start immediately (b/c of economy). To ensure that congress doesn't renege on the spending cuts as they have in the past, have tax BREAKS that will kick in as spending cuts are made. Essentially we'll go back to the Bush tax rates IF we cut spending. Voters will want to cut spending so they can get the tax cuts. Interesting idea.



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dewster
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I'm pretty sure it's being rejected b/c the Bush tax cut rollback for those making > 250k was excluded. Obama may have mentioned a time or two that this is a requirement


Obama and Reid sure have a lot of requirements for being so willing to compromise.

Have to raise taxes on the wealthy. The other side needs to compromise. Can't touch social security. The other side needs to compromise. Can't touch medicaid or food stamps. The other side needs to compromise. Can't touch funding for planned parenthood. The other side needs to compromise.

When you pander to 30 different groups, you have very little room to make a deal.






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Lsut81
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I saw larger figures totaling $800B over ten years ...so excluding inflation, accounting trickery, etc. that's $80B per year.


Is that not the exact same $$$ amount that the Republicans came up with






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BugAC
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It's time to pay up before we can never catch up.


Idiot response. It's time to pay up? Tell me, how much money does the federal government take from taxpayers to operate? Why the frick do you want to give them more money when they have proven they can't manage the massive amounts they get now? The only way you can be for giving the government more money, is if you are a complete idiot.






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Taxing Authority
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I'm pretty sure it's being rejected b/c the Bush tax cut rollback for those making > 250k was excluded. Obama may have mentioned a time or two that this is a requirement
Intransigence. Party of NO! Refuses to negotiate. Hostage taker.






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Taxing Authority
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Republicans haven't cut a damn thing in 30 years.
This is a funny comment. Why do you have to make cuts when your budget is close to being balanced or even running a surplus?

Comparing our current deficit situation to the previous 30 years simply isn't sensible. Our current deficits are 3-4X higher than anything we've previously seen. And Obama keeps outlining MORE spending.






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a want
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I can't remember exactly, but I think the total matched - but 1/2 was tax reform and the other was in medicare cuts. Obama wanted x in tax increases. GOP delivered 1/2x in reform. BTW: The medicare cuts should be on top of whatever revenue they come to. Hopefully they'll do the same to SS





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ChemE in the OP
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To handle the deficit we'll need spending cuts and increased revenue in the short term. If you can't understand that you probably don't have room for name calling, etc.





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sugar71
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Democrats should never ever agree to tax cuts on the wealthy again even if it's only temporary since it's obvious the depths the GOP is willing to go to preserve taxes on the wealthiest .......:


Obama won 8 of the 10 wealthiest counties in the nation overwhelmingly & most of the nations wealthiest really don't have a problem with Clinton era tax rates.

GOP hardliners & "Joe the Plumber" types on the net are more concerned about the wealthy taxes than even they are....








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IceTiger
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They can contribute whatever extra they want...


If the fed has to force them, then look to the ulterior motive...preserving deductions...the more they make the more they can afford the folks that will preserve their hoarding...

What you are talking about is class warfare theater...not actual solutions






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StrangeBrew
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Most articles I've read, shows I've seen, etc. suggest that both increased revenue and decreased spending are going to have to be a part of the solution.


In a attempt at bipartisanship I propose we start with spending cuts this time since we have always started with increased revenues everytime before.






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real
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I say lets roll right over the cliff, Dont give Obama another inch. We go over that cliff and his lame Duck arse will have 4 terrible years to end his legacy. Maybe some Dems dont care, but i assure you that his ego would never let it happen. Thus we were never going over that cliff, its all a game they playing.





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GumboPot
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If we go off the cliff why do Republicans get the blame? LINK

I mean, the president is 50% responsible for this deal too so why doesn't he get any blame?






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Rocket
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GOP hardliners & "Joe the Plumber" types on the net are more concerned about the wealthy taxes than even they are....


That's one of the reasons the conservative movement is so fricked up






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Taxing Authority
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"Joe the Plumber" types on the net are more concerned about the wealthy taxes than even they are....
More stupidity. We don't tax wealth. So, no the wealthy largely do not care about INCOME tax rates.

INCOME taxes don't hurt the already wealthy. INCOME taxes prevent one from turning their labor into wealth. INCOME taxes hurt those rising up. And the wealthy doesn't like the competition.






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Ace Midnight
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Why the frick do you want to give them more money when they have proven they can't manage the massive amounts they get now?


This is the core of all reasonable opposition to "tax the rich" rhetoric. Tax them - but please don't insult our intelligence by suggesting it is anything approaching a look at a hint of a solution to a nearly $4 trillion dollar federal budget.






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