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CAD703X 
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| re: Running vs Cycling (Posted on 12/4/12 at 10:09 am to TK421)
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Biking is fairly easy with the right equipment.
link your race resume and i'll listen to you
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trillhog
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| re: Running vs Cycling (Posted on 12/4/12 at 10:09 am to TK421)
cycliers have bigger balls
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CAD703X
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| re: Running vs Cycling (Posted on 12/4/12 at 10:09 am to trillhog)
eta and hotter SOs 
eta2 and better phones
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el Gaucho 
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| re: Running vs Cycling (Posted on 12/4/12 at 10:10 am to CAD703X)
I used to be big into cycling like 10 years ago. I had one of those cool bmx bikes
Do you do bmx races too? I'd say they're way harder than your kind of cycling because y'all don't do tricks
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TK421 
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| re: Running vs Cycling (Posted on 12/4/12 at 10:11 am to CAD703X)
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link your race resume and i'll listen to you
As someone who claims to have proof of your superhuman Armstrong like performance, you sure are demanding of others.
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foshizzle
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| re: Running vs Cycling (Posted on 12/4/12 at 10:12 am to Salmon)
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do they have timed rock climbing competitions?
Absolutely. There are plenty of videos on Youtube of various climbing competitions.
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CAD703X
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| re: Running vs Cycling (Posted on 12/4/12 at 10:14 am to TK421)
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have proof of your superhuman Armstrong like performance
link? lots of guys here are faster than me
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you sure are demanding of others
you claim running is harder than bike racing because you've done both. i just asked you to back that up
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TK421
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| re: Running vs Cycling (Posted on 12/4/12 at 10:17 am to CAD703X)
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you claim running is harder than bike racing because you've done both
You are asking me to prove I have biked and ran.
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Salmon
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| re: Running vs Cycling (Posted on 12/4/12 at 10:18 am to CAD703X)
are we arguing which one is harder?
I'll just say this, in running, you cannot draft, nor can you ever coast down a hill. 50% of your output is not dependent on your equipment.
I don't think there are amateur rankings in running. All this Cat3 and Cat4 amateur stuff is pretty absurd, IMO
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TK421
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| re: Running vs Cycling (Posted on 12/4/12 at 10:19 am to Salmon)
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I'll just say this, in running, you cannot draft, nor can you ever coast down a hill. 50% of your output is not dependent on your equipment.
Exactly. It's like people just ignore this simple truth.
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I don't think there are amateur rankings in running. All this Cat3 and Cat4 amateur stuff is pretty absurd, IMO
Also truth.
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CAD703X
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| re: Running vs Cycling (Posted on 12/4/12 at 10:21 am to TK421)
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bike racing
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prove I have biked and ran.
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CAD703X
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| re: Running vs Cycling (Posted on 12/4/12 at 10:23 am to TK421)
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I don't think there are amateur rankings in running. All this Cat3 and Cat4 amateur stuff is pretty absurd, IMO
Also truth.
wow more OT wisdom.
you do understand how this works right? as you gain fitness and skill (and win races) you move into higher (faster) categories. this gives new people a chance to win races without being blown away by the fast cat123 racers.
no of course you don't understand. its pretty absurd.
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Athanatos 
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| re: Running vs Cycling (Posted on 12/4/12 at 10:24 am to Salmon)
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I'll just say this, in running, you cannot draft.
Never been off the treadmill I see.
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Salmon
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| re: Running vs Cycling (Posted on 12/4/12 at 10:24 am to CAD703X)
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you do understand how this works right? as you gain fitness and skill (and win races) you move into higher (faster) categories. this gives new people a chance to win races without being blown away by the fast cat123 racers.
yeah it is pretty absurd
this kinda sounds like the "everyone gets a trophy" thing for Little League.
Yay! You won the slow people race!
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CAD703X
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| re: Running vs Cycling (Posted on 12/4/12 at 10:31 am to Salmon)
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Yay! You won the slow people race!
so if you've worked your way all the way up to cat3 (takes at least 2-3 years of hard work) you favor people who have never raced before mixed into your 80 person criterium? what could possibly go wrong?
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BMoney
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| re: Running vs Cycling (Posted on 12/4/12 at 10:48 am to Salmon)
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I'll just say this, in running, you cannot draft, nor can you ever coast down a hill. 50% of your output is not dependent on your equipment.
Bingo.
I spent last weekend watching runners complete 100 miles in the woods, and I was in awe.
There are no shortcuts in running. There's no coasting. You can't go drop a couple of grand on something that will allow you to use less energy to move faster. It's all you.
I don't know why there has to be a pissing match between the two though. Neither is easy. I prefer running.
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Salmon
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| re: Running vs Cycling (Posted on 12/4/12 at 10:51 am to BMoney)
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I don't know why there has to be a pissing match between the two though. Neither is easy. I prefer running.
I agree, but CAD wanted to go, so I figured I would oblige
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guedeaux
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| re: Running vs Cycling (Posted on 12/4/12 at 10:52 am to BMoney)
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You can't go drop a couple of grand on something that will allow you to use less energy to move faster. It's all you.
seems that their should be "stock" cycling races to make it more even. Train with whatever you like, but you are all racing on the same bike.
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CAD703X
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| re: Running vs Cycling (Posted on 12/4/12 at 10:55 am to guedeaux)
There honestly isn't much difference between a $2,000 bike and a $10,000 one.
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TygerTyger
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| re: Running vs Cycling (Posted on 12/4/12 at 11:01 am to guedeaux)
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seems that their should be "stock" cycling races to make it more even. Train with whatever you like, but you are all racing on the same bike.
The Little 500 in Bloomington Indiana, the setting of the movie "Breaking Away" requires all teams to use the same exact bikes.
Most racing that involves vehicles will have big advantages for those that can afford the high end super light, super strong gear. Even NASCAR, which is supposed to cancel all that out with it's gear requirements, still has teams with deeper pockets having an advantage over smaller teams. That's just the nature of the beast.
In cycling, the bike does add some benefit to the racer, but believe me, it's not a gauranteed victory. I've had my arse handed to me by guys on lesser equipment, just as I've beaten guys on MUCH nicer rigs.
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