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brewhan davey
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Face the facts, Te'o will win. Three reasons:

1. Only one on an undefeated team
2. Notre Dame
3. Only threat is a freshman


Tebow was the first sophomore to win the award and did so on an 9-3 team. (Eventually 9-4)



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ZereauxSum
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7 picks > 7 forced fumbles IMO, unless they were all recovered by the D.

To even be in the discussion as a defensive player you have to either score or generate a lot of turnovers. I've got no problem with T'eo being there, especially in such a weak year.






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SlowFlowPro
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especially in such a weak year.

JFF just had the best season any QB in SEC history has ever had, and a top-5 QB season of all time






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Dr RC
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tgr4ever
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quote:

Klein






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ZereauxSum
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JFF just had the best season any QB in SEC history has ever had, and a top-5 QB season of all time


Agree. I should have said that the field overall is weak. Outside of him there really hasn't been anyone that was incredibly impressive.






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rocket31
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To even be in the discussion as a defensive player you have to either score or generate a lot of turnovers


Comparing LB stats is a fruitless mindnumbing exercise in futility.

For starters, teams with great defenses (ND Top 2 in the country) are not going to be on the field long; teams with great defenses also have other solid defenders making tackles around them.

Additionally, if your team is on offense a lot (ND #11 in Time of Possession) you have even less opportunities on defense to make plays.

Manti Teo is not a Heisman candidate or a Top 10 projected draft pick for his on-field numbers...and for those that get that, props to them.






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rocket31
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JFF just had the best season any QB in SEC history has ever had


against SEC competition or against poverty FCS schools?






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ZTiger87
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So what you are saying is that Manziel racked up all of his stats against non BCS teams or losing BCS teams?





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Buckeye Backer
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Braxton Miller? Oh i get it, he plays for Ohio State i forgot.





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TigerTatorTots
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7 picks > 7 forced fumbles IMO, unless they were all recovered by the D.

So sacks and TFL mean nothing as a LB? K cool.






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Zamoro10
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ML wasn't even a finalist?





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dukke v
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Marquise Lee


Why THIS guy is not there is beyond me. Yes playing for a 7-5 team doesn't help but still the guy is wicked good.

I will put it this way. A & M is barely a .500 team without Johnny footrball. ND would have still won 10 games without Tai'






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ZereauxSum
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Additionally, if your team is on offense a lot (ND #11 in Time of Possession) you have even less opportunities on defense to make plays.


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For starters, teams with great defenses (ND Top 2 in the country) are not going to be on the field long


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Manti Teo is not a Heisman candidate


Am I slow or did you make two arguments in favor of T'eo before stating that he wasn't a Heisman candidate?






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rocket31
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before stating that he wasn't a Heisman candidate?


read the rest of the sentence m8






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ZereauxSum
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So sacks and TFL mean nothing as a LB? K cool.


Some dude in the MAC has 100+ tackles this season. Do you know his name?

Neither do I.






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abitabrewed4LSU
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I hope Manziel wins. I like his style.





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ZereauxSum
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read the rest of the sentence m8


My bad...long day






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bluebarracuda
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ML wasn't even a finalist?


I hate USCw, but this guy has to be a finalist. I think he should be up there with JFF for the heisman frontrunners






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SlowFlowPro
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against SEC competition or against poverty FCS schools?

both






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