Seems Bush and Sada was right! | TigerDroppings.com

Posted byMessage
darkhorse
Member since Aug 2012
7701 posts

Seems Bush and Sada was right!



If you could look back at an older thread, I talked about my travels and meeting Sada. In my conversations with Sada, he expressed that the US absolutely did the right thing by invading Iraq, and that their was no doubt that Saddam had WMDs.

He stated that they were moved to Syria (making a long story short).

At that time, Syria had none. All of the sudden, they do NOW! Where did they get them?

In fact, they are being warned to not use them against rebels and their people.

WMDs in Syria







Back to top
Share:
CarrolltonTiger
LSU Fan
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2005
46307 posts

re: Seems Bush and Sada was right!


There was never a dispute that Iraq had WMD, they used chemicla wepaons agaisnt Iran and their own people. The issue to some was did they have a nuclear program (also a WMD) close to fruition.

The fact Syria has chemicals is probative of nothing related to Bush and our adventure in Iraq.






Back to top
themunch
LSU Fan
At home/ at work/ it's all the same
Member since Jan 2007
11425 posts
 Online 

re: Seems Bush and Sada was right!


Hussien didnt build those. Osama is dead. Move on.





Back to top
lsu13lsu
LSU Fan
Member since Jan 2008
2150 posts

re: Seems Bush and Sada was right!


Iraq was a terrible idea. Probably even gave Iran the chance to build nuclear bombs which negates anything you have to say.





Back to top
CarrolltonTiger
LSU Fan
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2005
46307 posts

re: Seems Bush and Sada was right!


quote:

Probably even gave Iran the chance to build nuclear bombs which negates anything you have to say.


Probably gave them a greater incentive, much, much less likely to be invaded by the USA if they are a nuclear power.






Back to top
  Replies (0)
tketaco
LSU Fan
NOLA: Lake View
Member since Jan 2010
8762 posts

re: Seems Bush and Sada was right!


Thanks to Iraq our Military has the funding to give every soldiers flak vests with plates and every vehicle is up armored. When I deployed there back in '03, all we had was soft tops humvees and no armor on our HETs; also no plates for our vests (might as well been a winter coat). Two years after the fact you can't come into Iraq without either/or.





Back to top
CarrolltonTiger
LSU Fan
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2005
46307 posts

re: Seems Bush and Sada was right!


Well in that case, the thousands of lives lost and trillions of dollars spent seems entirely worth while. One of the most inspiring war objectives I've ever come across.







Back to top
darkhorse
Member since Aug 2012
7701 posts

re: Seems Bush and Sada was right!


Wow!!! Really... Nothing left to say at this point.





Back to top
lsu13lsu
LSU Fan
Member since Jan 2008
2150 posts

re: Seems Bush and Sada was right!


quote:

Wow!!! Really... Nothing left to say at this point.


He is right on this one. To think that is a reason to go to war is beyond ridiculous.

"Hey we went to war so we would have better war stuff."






Back to top
tketaco
LSU Fan
NOLA: Lake View
Member since Jan 2010
8762 posts

re: Seems Bush and Sada was right!


quote:

Well in that case, the thousands of lives lost and trillions of dollars spent seems entirely worth while. One of the most inspiring war objectives I've ever come across.


It's a very small number compared to other wars thanks to the vehicle and body armor.






Back to top
  Replies (0)
CherryGarciaMan
Sugar Magnolia
Member since Aug 2012
1772 posts

re: Seems Bush and Sada was right!


We knew Saddam had them






































because we gave them to him.






Back to top
  Replies (0)
darkhorse
Member since Aug 2012
7701 posts

re: Seems Bush and Sada was right!


quote:

He is right on this one. To think that is a reason to go to war is beyond ridiculous.


I don't think that's what he was referring to, and it's not why I ststed that.







Back to top
CarrolltonTiger
LSU Fan
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2005
46307 posts

re: Seems Bush and Sada was right!


quote:

I don't think that's what he was referring to, and it's not why I ststed that.


What was he referring to and why did you state that?






Back to top
  Replies (0)
BugAC
LSU Fan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
19308 posts

re: Seems Bush and Sada was right!


quote:

he issue to some was did they have a nuclear program (also a WMD) close to fruition.


No it wasn't. The issue was WMD's in general, and nuclear was never really an issue. It was chemical weapons.






Back to top
CarrolltonTiger
LSU Fan
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2005
46307 posts

re: Seems Bush and Sada was right!


quote:

The issue was WMD's in general, and nuclear was never really an issue. It was chemical weapons.


So the Yellow Cake had nothing to do with anything? And the Chemiclas he had had for about 30 years were the issue that demanded occupation?


George Bush on why he acted stupidly:
quote:

The evidence indicates that Iraq is reconstituting its nuclear weapons program. Saddam Hussein has held numerous meetings with Iraqi nuclear scientists, a group he calls his "nuclear mujahideen" -- his nuclear holy warriors. Satellite photographs reveal that Iraq is rebuilding facilities at sites that have been part of its nuclear program in the past. Iraq has attempted to purchase high-strength aluminum tubes and other equipment needed for gas centrifuges, which are used to enrich uranium for nuclear weapons.

If the Iraqi regime is able to produce, buy, or steal an amount of highly enriched uranium a little larger than a single softball, it could have a nuclear weapon in less than a year. And if we allow that to happen, a terrible line would be crossed. Saddam Hussein would be in a position to blackmail anyone who opposes his aggression. He would be in a position to dominate the Middle East. He would be in a position to threaten America. And Saddam Hussein would be in a position to pass nuclear technology to terrorists.








Back to top
BugAC
LSU Fan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
19308 posts

re: Seems Bush and Sada was right!


quote:

CarrolltonTiger


Care to give me a link to your quote?

quote:

Iraq produced 600 metric tons of chemical agents, including mustard gas, VX and sarin, and nearly 25,000 rockets and 15,000 artillery shells, with chemical agents, that are still unaccounted for. In fact, in 1995, Iraq told the United Nations that it had produced at least 30,000 liters of biological agents, including anthrax and other toxins it could put on missiles, but that all of it had been destroyed.



This post was edited on 12/3 at 4:17 pm


Back to top
BugAC
LSU Fan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
19308 posts

re: Seems Bush and Sada was right!


quote:

On May 30, 2003, Paul Wolfowitz stated in an interview with Vanity Fair magazine that the issue of weapons of mass destruction was the point of greatest agreement among Bush's team among the reasons to remove Saddam Hussein from power. He said, "The truth is that for reasons that have a lot to do with the U.S. government bureaucracy, we settled on the one issue that everyone could agree on, which was weapons of mass destruction as the core reason, but, there have always been three fundamental concerns. One is weapons of mass destruction, the second is support for terrorism, the third is the criminal treatment of the Iraqi people. Actually I guess you could say there's a fourth overriding one which is the connection between the first two."






Back to top
CarrolltonTiger
LSU Fan
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2005
46307 posts

re: Seems Bush and Sada was right!


Paul Wolfowitz, an Israeli agent, also told us we would be greeted with flowers and candy by the welcoming Iraqi's, Iraqi oil would pay for this adventure and removing SH would bring peace to the Middle East and end terrorism.

Only an idiot would believe anything that lying sack of shite said.

I really don't care why you think we wasted thousands of lives and trillions of dollars as well as American influence, options and prestige. You can think it was for armored up vehicles that now largely sit in israel or body armor, think whatever you want to justify that frick up that brought us a collapsed economy and Obama.






Back to top
BugAC
LSU Fan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
19308 posts

re: Seems Bush and Sada was right!


quote:

Paul Wolfowitz, an Israeli agent


Oh here comes the Jew bashing.

quote:

I really don't care why you think we wasted thousands of lives and trillions of dollars as well as American influence


You said the reason we went to war was because of Nukes. I am telling you that it was WMD's in general. And more specifically chemical weapons. I'm not discussing the merits of the war or what not, but correcting your false assertion that nukes were the reason we went to war.






Back to top
CarrolltonTiger
LSU Fan
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2005
46307 posts

re: Seems Bush and Sada was right!


I really don't care why you think we wasted thousands of lives and trillions of dollars as well as American influence, options and prestige. You can think it was WMD's in general, think whatever you want to justify that frick up that brought us a collapsed economy and Obama.

You can believe Paul Wolfowits one of the authors of "A Clean Break, Securing the Realm" "....the plan for Israel to transcend its foes by reshaping the Middle East looks a good deal more achievable today than it did in 1996. Americans may even be persuaded to give up their lives to achieve it."

In March 2003 Patrick J. Buchanan, referring to the 2003 invasion of Iraq and the report, wrote that "Their plan, which urged Israel to re-establish 'the principle of preemption,' has now been imposed by Perle, Feith, Wurmser & Co. on the United States."[4]

Ian Buruma wrote in August 2003 in the New York Times that[5]:


"Douglas Feith and Richard Perle advised Netanyahu, who was prime minister in 1996, to make 'a clean break' from the Oslo accords with the Palestinians. They also argued that Israeli security would be served best by regime change in surrounding countries. Despite the current mess in Iraq, this is still a commonplace in Washington. In Paul Wolfowitz's words, 'The road to peace in the Middle East goes through Baghdad.' It has indeed become an article of faith (literally in some cases) in Washington that American and Israeli interests are identical, but this was not always so, and 'Jewish interests' are not the main reason for it now."

Buruma continues[5]:


"What we see, then, is not a Jewish conspiracy, but a peculiar alliance of evangelical Christians, foreign-policy hard-liners, lobbyists for the Israeli government and neoconservatives, a number of whom happen to be Jewish. But the Jews among them -- Perle, Wolfowitz, William Kristol, editor of The Weekly Standard, et al. -- are more likely to speak about freedom and democracy than about Halakha (Jewish law). What unites this alliance of convenience is a shared vision of American destiny and the conviction that American force and a tough Israeli line on the Arabs are the best ways to make the United States strong, Israel safe and the world a better place."

George Packer, in his 2005 non-fiction analysis of the Iraq war The Assassins’ Gate, explicates the Clean Break report "through the lens of Wurmser’s subsequent AEI-published volume, which argued (in 1999) that America’s taking out Saddam would solve Israel’s strategic problems and leave the Palestinians essentially helpless."[6]

In 2006 commentator Karen Kwiatkowski pointed to the similarities between the proposed actions in the Clean Break document and the subsequent 2003 invasion of Iraq.[7] Soon after Phyllis Bennis pointed to the similarities between the proposals in the Clean Break document and the subsequent 2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict.[8]

In 2006 Sidney Blumenthal noted the paper's relevance to potential Israeli bombing of Syria and Iran, writing that "In order to try to understand the neoconservative road map, senior national security professionals have begun circulating among themselves" the Clean Break "neocon manifesto."[9] Soon after "Taki" of The American Conservative wrote that


"recently, Netanyahu suggested that President Bush had assured him Iran will be prevented from going nuclear. I take him at his word. Netanyahu seems to be the main mover in America’s official adoption of the 1996 white paper A Clean Break, authored by him and American fellow neocons, which aimed to aggressively remake the strategic environments of Iraq, Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, and Iran. As they say in boxing circles, three down, two to go."[10]








Back to top
  Replies (0)


Back to top