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The assumption is that a single parent na dfind a job making $29,000 a year (around $14.50 an hour roughly). That is not an easy thing to do without any job experience and most likley little or no education. The single parents who are on public assistance who do get some job experience and especially an education get off of public assistance and start paying into the system. Of course we are supposed to beleive that anyone on public assistance is lazy and only popping out children to game the system. And of course if we delve into that thinking even further we will find that they are mostly not white. In fact the majority are white and the vast majority only recieve benefits for a limited period of time until they start paying into the system.

There is some truth to the fact that the poor in the US have it pretty good..and there is a reason for this. The power brokers in this nation realized in the 30's how badly things could turn and how quickly if the masses weren't allowed a modicum of decent living. This the allowance of labor unions to emerge and the emergence of social programs. The wealthiest among us understand that they need this buffer between them and the masses. Take a look at Buffet and Gates and others in that class and their veiws on social safety nets. They know that if there are enought poor people hungry in the country that they will come and get their wealth...it has happened time and again in the history of man. It is only the emergence of the militant middle class, lead to beleive that billionaires are being put upon by the Govt. and that investment "creates jobs" (what a joke, but more on that later) that has lead us to the point where there are no more labor unions and we are trying to dismantle the social safety net that keeps the poor from taking away the wealthy's crap. The GOP has, for 30 years, bemoaned the fate of the wealthy while pandering to the worst people amoung us, the racists, the homophobes, the anti-social among us who would "Srhug Atlas, Shrug" if only someone would notice and has lead you otherwise intelligent people to the conclusion that it is better to be poor in the united States than middle class.....yet there is nothing but your own elghtened self interest, and the knowledge that this isn't the case, that keeps you from joining the ranks of the poor....






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germandawg
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need to go out and get myself a couple of illegitimate kids. Being responsible sucks.


Go ahead and give that a go...I will guarantee you that you wouldn't go back to your daily grind in a heartbeat. The only thing keeping you from getting on the gravy train with the single parent making $14.50 an hour is your own avarice. You can do it if anyone can...Shrug, Atlas, Shrug.






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germandawg
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My wife's cousin does this. She's been with her boyfriend for about 8 years now. Collects benefits for her 2 kids while they play house. Enrolls them in private schools. Just rented a 1900 square foot house out here (that my wife helped her find) that she then told my wife is "smaller than [they're] used to." (It's larger than our house.) Funny thing is, you know there's some shame embedded in their farce because she actually uses his last name on her Facebook account as if he's her legal husband. I have too much respect for my wife and child to live like that. I'm sick of all these low-lives.


There are people living pretty large selling crack and meth....of course this is illegal activity but so is gaming the system like you wife's cousin is doing. So why isn't the right all over the fact that it is obvious that drug laws are broken so why even bother but are all over welfare is broken and thus should be eliminated? It is because many of you on the right won't let it die because it feeds your beleif that it is all non-whites and as such less than human. Not all of you, but enough of you to keep the waters muddied. Yes, there are people gaming the system and breaking the law...and they should be called to task for that, but there are also many moor people who recieve assistance for a period of time and then get themselves into a position to pay into the system.






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Doosh606
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There are people living pretty large selling crack and meth....of course this is illegal activity but so is gaming the system like you wife's cousin is doing. So why isn't the right all over the fact that it is obvious that drug laws are broken so why even bother but are all over welfare is broken and thus should be eliminated? It is because many of you on the right won't let it die because it feeds your beleif that it is all non-whites and as such less than human. Not all of you, but enough of you to keep the waters muddied. Yes, there are people gaming the system and breaking the law...and they should be called to task for that, but there are also many moor people who recieve assistance for a period of time and then get themselves into a position to pay into the system.


Maybe we want this, because it's an easy problem to fix? The system is not creating the drug problem, however, it could be said that it is creating the welfare problem.






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CarrolltonTiger
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re: For a single mom, making $29k is better than making $69k


Isn't making the wrong word? Making implies work, or some value added process, these parasites are being given welfare dollars not making income.





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When people are penalized for doing better, Obama is reelected.


FIFY






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constant cough
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For all of the liberals who talk about how hard it is to live on government welfare programs, please provide a rebuttal.



But all the liberals explained to me Friday on Baloo's thread that welfare is just a small fraction of the debt....


Forward!








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Catman88
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re: For a single mom, making $29k is better than making $69k


One thing this leaves out..

Staying a "single" mom and not marrying the baby dady she lives with is also way better.






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PsychTiger
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need to go out and get myself a couple of illegitimate kids. Being responsible sucks.


You'd then have to change your screen name to HoTiger.



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Queen
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It is because many of you on the right won't let it die because it feeds your beleif that it is all non-whites and as such less than human.


You sound very angry.

And your assumptions are unfair. If you show me a post in this thread that specifically attacks black/hispanic/other minority welfare recipients I'll retract my statement. Otherwise quit trolling.






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dewster
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Saw this the other day.

The state of our welfare system is one of the leading causes of cultural and social breakdown throughout America. It has to be addressed with that in mind.






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lsu13lsu
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The state of our welfare system is one of the leading causes of cultural and social breakdown throughout America. It has to be addressed with that in mind.


The Democrats have positioned this breakdown as both a racial and class war. It will be hard to fix that if not impossible. They have left no room for any olive branch to come from the Republicans and the Democrats will never back down on their side until they get what they want. They really don't even care if it is right or wrong as long as they get what they want. They have so many special interest groups at this point I don't think they even know what they want anymore and I definitely don't know how they could possibly please them all and we still have a non-bankrupt country.






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TheHiddenFlask
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re: For a single mom, making $29k is better than making $69k


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The assumption is that a single parent na dfind a job making $29,000 a year (around $14.50 an hour roughly). That is not an easy thing to do without any job experience and most likley little or no education.


Yeah, 15 dollars an hour is SOOOOOOO hard to find. Most high schoolers make 10 dollars an hour and they are inexperienced and unreliable as hell.

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And of course if we delve into that thinking even further we will find that they are mostly not white. In fact the majority are white


Has pulling the race card already been moved from step 3 to step 2? When are you guys just going to start opening with it?

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only recieve benefits for a limited period of time until they start paying into the system.


How many of them ever become a net positive in the government system? I'll go with less than 15%, probably less than 5%. *** I base this opinion in some loosely connected figures that I feel no need to justify since you did not take the time to justify any of the numbers in your response in your response.

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Take a look at Buffet and Gates and others in that class and their veiws on social safety nets.


I love the way you guys keep throwing out these as examples, while at the same time villifying the 1% as being greedy rich and immoral. Take a look at Slim's thoughts on raising the lower class. He's richer than Buffet and Gates.

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The GOP has, for 30 years, bemoaned the fate of the wealthy while pandering to the worst people amoung us, the racists, the homophobes, the anti-social among us who would "Srhug Atlas, Shrug" if only someone would notice and has lead you otherwise intelligent people to the conclusion that it is better to be poor in the united States than middle class


Race card - Check
Homophobe card - Check
1% card - Check (in the same post you used 1%ers to make your point)
Ignoring hard data posted in the OP - Check

You're a complete and total idiot.






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Jake88
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re: For a single mom, making $29k is better than making $69k


I once did a quick and dirty analysis and based on my income vs someone with about 10k income and 3 kids, I have to earn $82,000 to pay for all of my taxes and the equivalent dollars for entitlements handed out before I start earning more than they "earn." Based on what you posted, I think my 82k was low and it's more like $97,000.


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RogerTheShrubber
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It is because many of you on the right won't let it die because it feeds your beleif that it is all non-whites and as such less than human.



Still living in the 50's, I see. You should get into the modern times.






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dewster
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When you can't win an argument, call the other guy a racist (or a nazi).

I guess he forfeited the debate.



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RogerTheShrubber
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When you can't win an argument, call the other guy a racist (or a nazi).

I guess he forfeited the debate.

'

Race baiters are frequently hit and run posters.



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ZereauxSum
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Double post


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ZereauxSum
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If you're in the bottom half of the middle class, your choice is to either get "rich" or get in line for government assistance.

I think it's clear that most will do the latter.



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Aubie Spr96
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re: For a single mom, making $29k is better than making $69k


I can't blame people for taking advantage of the situation. Financially speaking, it makes sense to do it. However, any business plan based on the federal gov't is doomed to fail at some point.





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