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Is Brees still an elite QB?


Yes.

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By elite I mean top 3 in the league.


At the very least he's top five.

Christlamighty sports message boards bring out the dumbassery.






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Christlamighty sports message boards bring out the dumbassery.


Well, we lost two games in a row.

You can see why we might be looking for a new HOF QB.






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The thing is some of these Drew Brees worshippers will Not tolerate any critcism even when it is accurate. They just won't stand for it. They'd rather ban everyone who doesn't suck his jock 24/7 and make this place like another Saints message board, where you pump sunshine or you get run off.


Dude, Brees is not having a great year. But the team was fricked from the beginning of the season. He has forced throws and tried to do too much. So?

This thread is full of fail.






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JazzyJeff
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I wouldn't be surprised to see him jump back to that normal, elite level again next year.
This all depends on who the next Saints HC will be. If it's Payton then he'll get back to his all world level. And let's hope this happens because coach Vitt is obviously not doing it for him.






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What would he need to do to be elite this season?
How about stop throwing interceptions? That's a good start.
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Brees's problems this year and especially the last 2 games, arent because of the oline or the defense. Not at all.
I constantly see him running for his life.

BTW, how is the defense not a problem? There may have been a little bit of improvement (from fricking terrible to damn awful), but the defense still sucks. They still leave plenty of pressure on Brees and the offense to score nearly every down. Do you know how hard it is for a team to score over 27 points a game, every week? Because that is exactly what the Saints' defense is allowing. He forces a lot more passes than he should.






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How about stop throwing interceptions? That's a good start.

I agree, he has thrown too many picks, our receivers have played a huge role in his decline this year both completion percentage and INTs, it is painfully evident that Curtis Johnson was very important to this team.

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There may have been a little bit of improvement (from fricking terrible to damn awful), but the defense still sucks.


I meant specifically the last 2 games, which is why everyone is PMSing right now, the D out performed the frick out of our offense. They made massive stands in those games, or key turnovers or key stops, and the offense didnt do shite afterwards. Or we got a lead and the offense fizzled or Drew threw a pic. The last 2 games had nothing at all to do with the Defense. They have been steadily improving each week, and there is plenty of evidence to suggest this is how Spag's defense works. No reason to think they will suddenly relapse. I agree they were terrible in the beginning of the year, but for all intensive purposes, that wasnt even our defense. It was missing a LB coach (who is a huge presence in the lockerrrom), our starting MLB and DE(both team leaders and Will Smith is one of the most respected players on the team by his teammates) and we had a new DC with an entirely new system and no HC.

The oline started off crappy as their coach bit off way more than he could chew and took the HC job. When Vitt got back they improved, then they got bit by the injury bug hard. They are getting beat on the outside, but PCM also isnt leaving RBs or TEs in as blockers enough, and isnt running an effective offense when opposing defenses get blitz happy.

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Do you know how hard it is for a team to score over 27 points a game, every week?

They only did that like 25/64 times from 08-11, so is it hard, yes. Is it a crazy thing to ask of our offense? Not at all. We need Payton. PCM Jr. isnt cutting it. More than the oline, more than the defense, more than anything else we need our fricking coach.

I have ranted and digressed alot in this post, but to sum up:

Drew Brees was an elite QB, Drew Brees is an elite QB, and Drew Brees is absolutely in the same category as Manning and Brady career wise.






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And let's hope this happens because coach Vitt is obviously not doing it for him.



What does Joe Vitt have to do with the offense?






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JazzyJeff
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What does Joe Vitt have to do with the offense?
I guess he has absolutely nothing to do with the offense Bressus. He's the Head Coach just for shits and giggles, right?

You said something as equally as stupid in response to one of my other brilliant posts. So, are you just being a dick, or you're just stupid?






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I guess he has absolutely nothing to do with the offense Bressus


Well he is a Linebacker coach, so yeah.

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He's the Head Coach just for shits and giggles, right?

Well he is the interim HC because we lost our HC and needed to promote from within, so yeah kind of. And since when is it the head coaches job of a defensive mined guy to be offensive coordinator? How could Vitt help? Give me an example of what he could do to help.

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You said something equally as brilliant in response to one of my other stupid posts. So, are you just being a dick, or am I just stupid?


Well i dont think you are stupid, but i'm not being a dick.






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JazzyJeff
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Well he is a Linebacker coach, so yeah.
No, he's the Head Coach.
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Well he is the interim HC
But you just said he's the "Linebacker coach",
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we lost our HC and needed to promote from within, so yeah kind of.
oh...so he is just doing this for shits and giggles
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And since when is it the head coaches job of a defensive mined guy to be offensive coordinator?
Well....never. But it is his responsibility to ensure that the OC is doing his job. And it's obvious to the non-tard that the offense is starting to look a little lost, clueless, dare I say poorly coached?
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How could Vitt help? Give me an example of what he could do to help.
Stop being afraid of the 100 millions dollar man and get on his arse when he starts wingin' it. Learn how to make in game adjustments so that when the 4th quarter rolls around your opponent doesn't have you figured out to the point where you can't even score one fricking point!
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Well i dont think you are stupid,
And you are correct.

BTW...I see what what you did there.






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Breesus
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Well....never. But it is his responsibility to ensure that the OC is doing his job. And it's obvious to the non-tard that the offense is starting to look a little lost, clueless, dare I say poorly coached? Stop being afraid of the 100 millions dollar man and get on his arse when he starts wingin' it.

This is where we have a problem
1. The offense definitely looks lost and poorly coached. They dont have their coach.
2. What do you want Vitt to do? Exactly? Go over to drew and start screaming in his face?
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Learn how to make in game adjustments so that when the 4th quarter rolls around your opponent doesn't have you figured out to the point where you can't even score one fricking point!

Again, it isnt the interim HC/ LB coachs job to learn how to run an offense and make in game adjustments. That is the offensive coordinators job. And i get that the HC should keep him in line, but there is a big difference in the HC and the interim HC who really has no authority as far as personnel and coaching positions, etc...

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BTW...I see what what you did there.

I really dont think you are dumb. Before this season you where one of the more knowledgeable loyal fan posters. This season you for whatever reason have decided to be a trolling a-hole. I realize people may have differing opinions or think Payton may leave or w/e but you get you point across in the most trollish possible way. You know you are doing it. And it is annoying as frick (not specifically that last post, btw, but you know what im talking about). But i do not under any circumstances think you are an idiot.






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JazzyJeff
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I really dont think you are dumb. Before this season you where one of the more knowledgeable loyal fan posters. This season you for whatever reason have decided to be a trolling a-hole. I realize people may have differing opinions or think Payton may leave or w/e but you get you point across in the most trollish possible way. You know you are doing it. And it is annoying as frick (not specifically that last post, btw, but you know what im talking about). But i do not under any circumstances think you are an idiot.
OK...we'll agree to disagree about Vitt.

Now about the SP to Dallas trolling issue. This all started when I, with no trollish motives at all, linked to a Jeff Duncan article about Benson not paying SP any more money than the extension that he had already agreed to before the NFL zapped it. And I agreed, and still do, with the premise of that linked article.

And this is when the shite hit the fan. For the longest time everyone on here actually thought I was Jeff Duncan! I was called all kinds of names, which is fine, I can take it; and the thing took on a life of its own. And I admit...I ran with it and milked it for all it was worth. But let me resort for a second to being childish and say, 'you guys started this shite.'

Having a different opinion on here doesn't qualify someone as being a troll, and some folks on here are straight up pussies...not you btw.




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Well, if you want us to engage you in quasi-thoughtful discourse, you have to chill with the trolling and name-calling.

I realize that's not totally fair.






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You're trying too hard fleury.





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