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deltaland
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You think the GOP is really concerned about those who are disadvantaged? You gotta be kidding me


Yes but you fail to grasp is that by siding with the business owners and working people, helping them improves the economy and creates more jobs.

We would rather help the disadvantaged by creating more jobs for them, so they can live better lives, pay taxes and contribute to society. This results in more tax revenue without raising taxes on the current business owners, and it also improves the life of the poor, rather than just giving money and assistance to the poor by taking it from successful people.

Think of it like this...do you believe in a classroom a student who studied hard and made an A, and one didn't study and made a D, that the one who didn't study deserves to be given an B and the one who studied knocked down to a B because it isn't fair that one got a lower grade than the other. (this represents the liberal view on the rich/poor).

Or should he be given more personal help such as a tutor, to encourage him to study and work towards a better grade. A grade that is earned. (conservative view).







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Rocket
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It did and is


Incorrect

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but that would never have been an issue if the federal government hadn't gotten a hard-on about creating more sub-prime loans.


You're basically defending Wall Street for wanting these financial instruments unregulated

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Doing asinine things like extending unemployment benefits to 99 weeks as well as failing to pass a long-term tax package (much less a budget) is what has exacerbated things


Not convinced

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Businesses send jobs overseas because it's cheaper. One of the biggest costs is taxes (payroll, social security, etc). If Congress were to pass a bill that would cut payroll and corporate taxes by 50% for any business with over 100 employees (including contract labor) that have at least 90% of their workers in the US, jobs would come back.


Maybe, maybe not.



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Since 2000, which party has presided (ie: had at 2/3 of the House/Senate/Presidency) over the largest amount of deficit spending?


The GOP has no credibility when it comes to the debt.

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Caused by traditional assistance? No. Exacerbated by it now? Yes.


Not convinced.







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acgeaux129
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Rocket


For anyone who didn't know, this is the king of the rantards who started a "March for Miles" parade n 2007.






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Rocket
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Yes but you fail to grasp is that by siding with the business owners and working people, helping them improves the economy and creates more jobs.


It helps the wealthy do better, that's about all it does.

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We would rather help the disadvantaged by creating more jobs for them, so they can live better lives, pay taxes and contribute to society



If the GOP walked the way you talk, it would probably still have control of the White House






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Bayou Tiger
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When it comes to capitalism:

who you know>>>>>>who you are>>>>>>what you do
You sound like a classic democrat who is losing at life and searching for a scapegoat.

If I lost my job and savings, it would slow me down but wouldn't force me to whining. I would just find something new to do and outwork everyone while creating value, just like I have done my entire life.

It is way more satisfying than whining and sticking a hand out for assistance. When did it become so gauche to face setbacks with a positive attitude and sense of determination? Lazy people suck.






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Bard
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but that would never have been an issue if the federal government hadn't gotten a hard-on about creating more sub-prime loans.


You're basically defending Wall Street for wanting these financial instruments unregulated


That point can only be reached if you went into it with that belief and are only looking for (and at) things to back that up.

Congress and various administrations (going back to Bush I, possibly Carter depending on how deep you want to go) have all contributed to this. They created the foundation that Wall Street took advantage of. Your assertion that Wall Street is more to blame is akin to blaming a snake for biting you because it's a snake.

If government doesn't set up scenarious (although unintended), then the event doesn't happen in the first place.

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The GOP has no credibility when it comes to the debt.


It has more than the Democrat party, as I have shown and as Harry Ried shows every time he refuses to allow a budget from the House onto the Senate floor for even a debate.






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deltaland
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If the GOP walked the way you talk, it would probably still have control of the White House


Well I guess I'll change majors and go into Politics then..run for President in 20 years.






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Rocket
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Congress and various administrations (going back to Bush I, possibly Carter depending on how deep you want to go) have all contributed to this


Because Wall Street lobbied for it

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They created the foundation that Wall Street took advantage of. Your assertion that Wall Street is more to blame is akin to blaming a snake for biting you because it's a snake. If government doesn't set up scenarious (although unintended), then the event doesn't happen in the first place.


Please, go weep for Wall Street elsewhere

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It has more than the Democrat party, as I have shown and as Harry Ried shows every time he refuses to allow a budget from the House onto the Senate floor for even a debate.


What we is that by the the OBama took the White House, the debt was already around 10trillion. If the GOP wanted to maintain credibility on this issue, they should have have made it shrunk when they took over in 2001. They decided not to. People are tuning out the GOP and rightfully so






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DaGarun
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they should have have made it shrunk when they took over in 2001. They decided not to. People are tuning out the GOP and rightfully so

Perhaps, but is the new crop doing better on the whole?






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Rocket
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Perhaps, but is the new crop doing better on the whole?


No, but nobody wants to hear Republicans talk about it like anyone gives a frick about what they have to say.

I'll make John Boner cry






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Rocket
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this is the king of the rantards who started a "March for Miles" parade n 2007.


Les Miles will end up being the most successful coach in LSU history when it's all said and done.

Great idea by me. The success of Les Miles has paid big for LSU.






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What we is that by the the OBama took the White House, the debt was already around 10trillion. If the GOP wanted to maintain credibility on this issue, they should have have made it shrunk when they took over in 2001. They decided not to. People are tuning out the GOP and rightfully so


WTF is this. you had too many 40s today






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Rocket
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Jbird, you are making me uncomfortable with how you stalk me





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Jbird
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Ah its a public board douche, oh and try english motherfricker!





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Bard
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Please, go weep for Wall Street elsewhere


You think that because I find more fault with DC for creating the ecosystem that this issue could happen than I do with Wall Street for taking advantage of it, that I am excusing Wall Street. If you can put your myopic view aside for a few minutes, please find where I have said Wall Street isn't to blame.

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What we is that by the the OBama took the White House, the debt was already around 10trillion. If the GOP wanted to maintain credibility on this issue, they should have have made it shrunk when they took over in 2001. They decided not to. People are tuning out the GOP and rightfully so


By this logic then people should be turning on the Dems since the deficit under Dem leadership has grown multiples of what it did under GOP leadership and in only half the time (which I have already proven via the White House's own numbers).







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Rocket
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You think that because I find more fault with DC for creating the ecosystem that this issue could happen than I do with Wall Street for taking advantage of it, that I am excusing Wall Street. If you can put your myopic view aside for a few minutes, please find where I have said Wall Street isn't to blame.


You are bent out of shape. YOu are defending Wall Street. You act like Wall Street is a victim.

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this logic then people should be turning on the Dems since the deficit under Dem leadership has grown multiples of what it did under GOP leadership and in only half the time (which I have already proven via the White House's own numbers).


I'll wait until OBama's second term is over with before I turn on anyone. The GOP has their turn, and they fricked it up.

That's one of the reasons Mitt Romney pumps gas in LaJolla now






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HempHead
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...their best interests. Which is socialism.


Socialism is in no-one's best interest, Zach.

The greatest farce that has been bandied about for the past 150 years is that collectivized control of production and distribution is somehow BENEFICIAL to the lower classes.



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acgeaux129
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You acting like you know anything about Wall Street or financial reform in general.





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Rocket
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You acting like you know anything about Wall Street or financial reform in general.



I know the GOP is getting weaker every day.






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mograyback
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Haha.

The people grinding it out the hardest are usually the poorest. Effort is no indication of success.

This is a horrible OP.






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