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VOR 
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32931 posts
| re: What do you define as a 'perfect union'? (Posted on 11/28/12 at 9:56 pm to JLSIX)
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you would have a heart attack old man
Well, that would be the cocaine and cigarettes. Not Mila.
(not serious. i live a clean and righteous life other than banging movie stars)
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IceTiger 
USA Fan
OKC
Member since Oct 2007
8898 posts
| re: What do you define as a 'perfect union'? (Posted on 11/28/12 at 9:56 pm to EthanL)
They tried that in the Sioux nation
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Paluka 
LSU Fan
One State Over
Member since Dec 2010
1636 posts
| re: What do you define as a 'perfect union'? (Posted on 11/28/12 at 10:39 pm to EthanL)
Your post is your own agenda to tell others what it REALLY means according to your beliefs, which includes bashing Christians and the GOP. Good job working towards unifying people.
This post was edited on 11/28 at 10:40 pm
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olgoi khorkhoi
Bucknell Fan
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
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| re: What do you define as a 'perfect union'? (Posted on 11/28/12 at 11:50 pm to EthanL)
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What do you define as a 'perfect union'?
Liberty surrendered in exchange for sweet, sweet security
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TN Bhoy
USA Fan
Philly
Member since Apr 2010
33584 posts
| re: What do you define as a 'perfect union'? (Posted on 11/29/12 at 12:04 am to Paluka)
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Your post is your own agenda to tell others what it REALLY means according to your beliefs, which includes bashing Christians and the GOP. Good job working towards unifying people.
Nah, he forgot adding something about how evil white people are.
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ShortyRob
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Savannah, GA
Member since Oct 2008
23922 posts
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| re: What do you define as a 'perfect union'? (Posted on 11/29/12 at 12:07 am to EthanL)
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In almost half a century, the only real, and meaningful attempt at a 'more perfect union', flawed as it may be, has been Obamacare.
"More perfect" union(as you seem to define it) attempts are pretty much without fail, attempt by borderline or actual tyrants who believe they know what is best for ALL. In fact, I can't really think of a single example where this isn't the case.
This is The reason liberty loving people oppose such attempts.
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JLSIX
New Orleans Saints Fan
New Orleans, LA
Member since Apr 2010
15287 posts
| re: What do you define as a 'perfect union'? (Posted on 11/29/12 at 12:11 am to EthanL)
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why do you assume that someone against the communist utopia you speak of is a Christian? Didn't you claim to be a Republican when you first started to post here? Why are you a communist? What do you have against rich people? What do you have against to each to his own ability? Why do support to each only according to his need?
why won't you answer these questions?
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joshnorris14 
Florida Fan
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
19488 posts
| re: What do you define as a 'perfect union'? (Posted on 11/29/12 at 12:21 am to EthanL)
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And let's be realistic, what real steps have we taken toward the so-called 'perfect union' in the past, say, 20 years?
A 'more perfect union' is a world without state governments.
Open sourcing is probably the biggest advent in the last 20 years.
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montman01
LSU Fan
phoenix az
Member since Mar 2005
3473 posts
| re: What do you define as a 'perfect union'? (Posted on 11/29/12 at 12:27 am to EthanL)
where the govt is truly a product of the people. not the people a product of the govt. where the oppertunity to succeed is a right, not a guarentee to those who dont work for it. where those that do succeed are not forced to provoide for those who refuse to. where the govt is held accountable to the people, not the people are held accountableb by the govt. where those who contribute have more of a say than those who dont. etc etc
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Radiojones
LSU Fan
Dutchtown, LA
Member since Feb 2007
4179 posts
| re: What do you define as a 'perfect union'? (Posted on 11/29/12 at 6:53 am to EthanL)
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A perfect union is where no one is poor or rich, and where someone's surplus offsets another's deficiency.
Wow, another idealist Communist. We sure need more of these.
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Wolfhound45
LSU Fan
WhereverTheArmySendsUs
Member since Nov 2009
7390 posts
| re: What do you define as a 'perfect union'? (Posted on 11/29/12 at 7:05 am to joshnorris14)
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'more perfect union' is a world without state governments.
A one world government? How do we elect the head of state? How does he/she govern if there are no smaller divisions (e.g. states) to address local matters?
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EthanL
LSU Fan
Harvey LA
Member since Oct 2011
2180 posts
| re: What do you define as a 'perfect union'? (Posted on 11/29/12 at 7:46 am to Wolfhound45)
I did not come up with the definition. That is the bible's definition of a perfect/Christian society.
Sorry if I offended any non-Christians I thought a good number of u were Catholics.
And then I guest the bible spouts communist ideals. So be it.
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joshnorris14
Florida Fan
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
19488 posts
| re: What do you define as a 'perfect union'? (Posted on 11/29/12 at 5:25 pm to Wolfhound45)
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A one world government?
A world government is still a state government.
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navy 
Navy Fan
Bannedeville, LA
Member since Sep 2010
3424 posts
| re: What do you define as a 'perfect union'? (Posted on 11/29/12 at 5:35 pm to Robin Masters)
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What do you define as a 'perfect union'?
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We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence,[note 1] promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
Better than England at the time the Preamble was written. Thee end.
As to how to define it now ... just look at where we are and are headed ... and think of the opposite.
Need less government. More individual accountability.
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udtiger
LSU Fan
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
17950 posts
| re: What do you define as a 'perfect union'? (Posted on 11/29/12 at 7:03 pm to EthanL)
One of truly sovereign states under the LIMITED Constitution.
This union ceased being "perfect" in 1861.
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Wolfhound45
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WhereverTheArmySendsUs
Member since Nov 2009
7390 posts
| re: What do you define as a 'perfect union'? (Posted on 11/29/12 at 11:00 pm to joshnorris14)
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A world government is still a state government.
Uhm, okay. So your alternative is, what?
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Wolfhound45
LSU Fan
WhereverTheArmySendsUs
Member since Nov 2009
7390 posts
| re: What do you define as a 'perfect union'? (Posted on 11/29/12 at 11:02 pm to EthanL)
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I did not come up with the definition. That is the bible's definition of a perfect/Christian society.
Sorry if I offended any non-Christians I thought a good number of u were Catholics.
And then I guest the bible spouts communist ideals. So be it.
What in the world are you talking about? That response makes absolutely no sense.
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souldog
LSU Fan
Johnstown, PA
Member since Jul 2007
920 posts
| re: What do you define as a 'perfect union'? (Posted on 11/29/12 at 11:22 pm to Wolfhound45)
A great question, notice how many answers that are without substance.
Add to that "domestic tranquility" and I think you really have basic questions of what the Constitution really means.
Add to that the brilliant interpretation of Sarah Palin that we must get back to "the Constitution", which, of course, is deeply rooted in the minds of or Founding Fathers.
Will somebody please ask this great mind what the hell they think that means?
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joshnorris14
Florida Fan
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
19488 posts
| re: What do you define as a 'perfect union'? (Posted on 11/30/12 at 2:00 am to Wolfhound45)
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Uhm, okay. So your alternative is, what?
I believe I just stated it. No state governments.
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montman01
LSU Fan
phoenix az
Member since Mar 2005
3473 posts
| re: What do you define as a 'perfect union'? (Posted on 12/1/12 at 9:42 am to udtiger)
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