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WikiTiger
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re: Why are all "conspiracy theories" viewed as impossible or far fetched?


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wiki from your link


I haven't said anything about 9/11






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nobodytooimportant
Member since Oct 2012
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re: Why are all "conspiracy theories" viewed as impossible or far fetched?


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Why are y'all ignoring all the true "conspiracy theories" I've posted?


Their from Cracked, so that is not a point in your favor.

The gulf of Tonkin as your own article points out wasn't a conspiracy it was just ignoring other information to justify something that had already been planed, much the way 9/11 was used to justify an invasion of Iraq.

the one about nixon stealing the 68 election is entirely based on the fact that Johnson thought Nixon go the South Vietnamese to walk away from the negotiating table, but no proof is presented to support this idea.

There was also one that the entire conspiracy was the KGB spreading false conspiracy theories about JFK's assassination.

Another of these true conspiracies was the fact the US hired Nazi rocket scientists, not really a conspiracy.

IN fact the only real conspiracy in that entire list was the first one about car companies destroying trolly systems.

This is why people don't take conspiracy theorist seriously, most of them don't apply much critical thinking. To quote from your own link.

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But conspiracy theorists aren't interested in boring stories featuring things like incompetence and the truth. They want the story where evil people cause explosions. In this way, they're exactly like the presidents who they believe are a species of lizard people.






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RogerTheShrubber
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re: Why are all "conspiracy theories" viewed as impossible or far fetched?


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Here is the thing about conspiracy theorist they can come up with these over complicated plots that I guess could happen, but they never come up with the answer of why. Why is the plot so complicated? Why do the conspirators want to do whatever the plot is? Why did so many low level functionaries not spill the beans?


You can make a conspiracy theory out of anything you want to, really. Just question a bunch of shite that few people can answer. There are some conspiracy theories that are probably true, but most are too small for anyone here to have heard of, or too small for anyone to really care about. Anything huge involving many people is just too difficult to cover up over time.


Reasons people buy into this stuff


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patternicity, or a tendency to find meaningful patterns in random noise;

agenticity, or the bent to believe the world is controlled by invisible intentional agent;

confirmation bias, or the seeking and finding of

confirmatory evidence for what we already believe;
hindsight bias, or tailoring


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Some points from his article:

People who believe in one theory are more likely to believe in others.

There is a strong association between income and belief levels: the better-off are less likely to believe in conspiracy theories. (Perhaps this can be chalked up to education.)

Instability makes most of us uncomfortable; people prefer to imagine living in a predictable, safe world. Some conspiracy theories offer accounts that feel “safe” or “predictable.”

Conspiracy theories often mutate over time in light of new or contradicting evidence.

Conspiracies usually require a big newsworthy event on which to peg it.

But it’s Shermer who drives the point home. He writes:

“The more elaborate a conspiracy theory is, and the more people that would need to be involved, the less likely it is true.”


Some theories have enough credibility to them to make them somewhat plausible, but others are just whacked. The same people seem to believe the whacked theories, for some reason.






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GREENHEAD22
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re: Why are all "conspiracy theories" viewed as impossible or far fetched?


I do believe in some conspiracies, not many though.

The mafia killed JFK and some form of bilderberg group.


Also Paging TXTiger this bastard believes in everything.






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C
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Member since Dec 2007
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Oh i know. I also know that you are always full of facts when you don't think something happened the way it was presented. Obviously you don't want to question someone's integrity without having any proof.





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souldog
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re: Why are all "conspiracy theories" viewed as impossible or far fetched?


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You can make a conspiracy theory out of anything you want to, really. Just question a bunch of shite that few people can answer. There are some conspiracy theories that are probably true, but most are too small for anyone here to have heard of, or too small for anyone to really care about. Anything huge involving many people is just too difficult to cover up over time.


While I basically agree with your premise that many of the present-day conspiracy theories are false, I do believe that if you were to look at history, you would find that there are numerous theories that, at the time, were deemed to be kooky conspiracies.

Off the top of my head there are two examples:

1. George III called the American revolt against the throne "Sam Adam's conspiracy", and they grossly undervalued the depth and scope of their beliefs.

2. The Pope also considered Galileo's attempt to explain the invention of the telescope as a conspiracy of the devil to cloud the minds of true Christians.

Each so-called conspiracy theory should be judged on its own merit. Most of them will not stand the test of time, but that doesn't mean that they are false just because they do not fit the beliefs of the time.






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Gmorgan4982
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Huh?





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RogerTheShrubber
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re: Why are all "conspiracy theories" viewed as impossible or far fetched?


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1. George III called the American revolt against the throne "Sam Adam's conspiracy", and they grossly undervalued the depth and scope of their beliefs.

2. The Pope also considered Galileo's attempt to explain the invention of the telescope as a conspiracy of the devil to cloud the minds of true Christians.

Each so-called conspiracy theory should be judged on its own merit. Most of them will not stand the test of time, but that doesn't mean that they are false just because they do not fit the beliefs of the time.



Not every theory is false, but some are too obviously whacked out to be real and you would have to be an absolute fool to believe. I cited the two main ones earlier.






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