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Interception Providence Fan Member since Nov 2008 8687 posts
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| re: Was the treatment of Vietnam soldiers returning home somewhat mythical? (Posted on 11/24/12 at 11:19 pm to mograyback)
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News flash. A lot of people can't find work. And yes, we go a bit overboard in our military love. I especially have a problem with blind love. For instance, my brother in law did ROTC. He had his college paid for, got a great living allowance while in school, so he could afford to have a nice apartment, eat well, and drink plenty of beer. Now he spends his service time living in a beach side condo in FLA. He gets overpaid, plus get's a housing and food allowance, meaning he pockets everything he makes... and he'll be blindly slobbered over the same way someone who fought in battle.
I have friends that laid down their lives in Fallujah because they were ordered not to shoot as the enemy was among civilians. No, not everybody deserves our respect that wears the uniform but we give it because of the souls that wore it before deserve that honor. Your brother in law sounds like a tool btw
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mograyback  Missouri Fan Red Patoka Sea Member since Jul 2011 5486 posts

| re: Was the treatment of Vietnam soldiers returning home somewhat mythical? (Posted on 11/24/12 at 11:19 pm to kilo)
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Im 100% certain that 99% of these loudmouths lack the intestinal fortitude to say any of this negative shite to a veterans face. What a bunch of pussies.
What negative stuff is that, Kilo? Thanks.
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LSUgusto  LSU Fan Member since May 2005 15591 posts
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| re: Was the treatment of Vietnam soldiers returning home somewhat mythical? (Posted on 11/24/12 at 11:21 pm to mograyback)
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today it get's kind of breezed through in the news usually
Well, that pretty much depends on whether a Republican or Democrat is in office now, doesn't it?
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mograyback  Missouri Fan Red Patoka Sea Member since Jul 2011 5486 posts

| re: Was the treatment of Vietnam soldiers returning home somewhat mythical? (Posted on 11/24/12 at 11:21 pm to Interception)
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I have friends that laid down their lives in Fallujah because they were ordered not to shoot as the enemy was among civilians. No, not everybody deserves our respect that wears the uniform but we give it because of the souls that wore it before deserve that honor. Your brother in law sounds like a tool btw
He is a tool. Are you serious with that analogy? Those guys that were ordered not to shoot were battle soldiers. My brother in law is a guy that never leaves a base. Get's to live in a beach side condo paid for by the tax payers. He's yet to leave this country... your analogy is just terrible. I would respect the battle soldier that was told not to shoot, I'm not sure what point you were trying to make.
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mograyback  Missouri Fan Red Patoka Sea Member since Jul 2011 5486 posts

| re: Was the treatment of Vietnam soldiers returning home somewhat mythical? (Posted on 11/24/12 at 11:22 pm to LSUgusto)
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Well, that pretty much depends on whether a Republican or Democrat is in office now, doesn't it?
Not really.
This post was edited on 11/24 at 11:23 pm
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kilo  Missouri Fan St Louis Member since Oct 2011 4134 posts

| re: Was the treatment of Vietnam soldiers returning home somewhat mythical? (Posted on 11/24/12 at 11:23 pm to mograyback)
Shits been flying all weekend on this board. I just as soon you all would just not say anything, positive or negative.
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mograyback  Missouri Fan Red Patoka Sea Member since Jul 2011 5486 posts

| re: Was the treatment of Vietnam soldiers returning home somewhat mythical? (Posted on 11/24/12 at 11:24 pm to kilo)
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Shits been flying all weekend on this board. I just as soon you all would just not say anything, positive or negative.
Have you even read this thread? I don't think anything negative has even been said...
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LSUgusto  LSU Fan Member since May 2005 15591 posts
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| re: Was the treatment of Vietnam soldiers returning home somewhat mythical? (Posted on 11/24/12 at 11:28 pm to mograyback)
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Not really.

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Spandex Flamingo Member since Nov 2012 142 posts

| re: Was the treatment of Vietnam soldiers returning home somewhat mythical? (Posted on 11/24/12 at 11:29 pm to mograyback)
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Also, I think the negative stuff got more press back then, today it get's kind of breezed through in the news usually.
The media is desensitized too. Although now it's faceless drones commiting the atrocities. Not as interesting.
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kilo  Missouri Fan St Louis Member since Oct 2011 4134 posts

| re: Was the treatment of Vietnam soldiers returning home somewhat mythical? (Posted on 11/24/12 at 11:29 pm to mograyback)
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Have you even read this thread? I don't think anything negative has even been said...
Yep, I have read this thread and the others that have been made over the last couple of days. It doesnt personally bother me but it most definitely pisses me off when I think about the friends I have lost while serving as well as the folks who were wounded. The passive aggressive shots are tasteless. People who put on a uniform take an inherent risk regardless of personal reasons for being in the service. You want top point out individuals and knock them, I understand as there are douche bags but the blanket shots are tiresome. I stand by my earlier statement. 99% of these people would NEVER say that to a veterans face because they are pussies.
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mograyback  Missouri Fan Red Patoka Sea Member since Jul 2011 5486 posts

| re: Was the treatment of Vietnam soldiers returning home somewhat mythical? (Posted on 11/24/12 at 11:30 pm to Spandex Flamingo)
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Although now it's faceless drones commiting the atrocities. Not as interesting.
Good point.
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Interception Providence Fan Member since Nov 2008 8687 posts
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| re: Was the treatment of Vietnam soldiers returning home somewhat mythical? (Posted on 11/24/12 at 11:33 pm to mograyback)
You must be pissed Missouri got their asses kicked on national TV or something Dude, I feel sorry for anybody that resents praise for our troops today while praising the disrespect our veterans experienced during Vietnam. Wtf is wrong with you?
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mograyback  Missouri Fan Red Patoka Sea Member since Jul 2011 5486 posts

| re: Was the treatment of Vietnam soldiers returning home somewhat mythical? (Posted on 11/24/12 at 11:34 pm to kilo)
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The passive aggressive shots are tasteless. People who put on a uniform take an inherent risk regardless of personal reasons for being in the service. You want top point out individuals and knock them, I understand as there are douche bags but the blanket shots are tiresome. I stand by my earlier statement. 99% of these people would NEVER say that to a veterans face because they are pussies
Kilo, with all do respect. You are the KING of the art known as being passive aggressive. It's literally the fabric of who you are. What blanket statement have I made? In fact, I make the opposite of blanket statements. I've explained in this thread that don't have respect for a guy like my brother in law who lives in a beach condo and lived the high life in college on the militaries dime. I've thoroughly made a distinction between that type of soldier and the others. And nothing else in this thread has been anything but observations of the truth, such as there was a negative perception of soldiers during and after war. Thats just observing how it was... not sure how you could have an issue with that.
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mograyback  Missouri Fan Red Patoka Sea Member since Jul 2011 5486 posts

| re: Was the treatment of Vietnam soldiers returning home somewhat mythical? (Posted on 11/24/12 at 11:36 pm to Interception)
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Dude, I feel sorry for anybody that resents praise for our troops today while praising the disrespect our veterans experienced during Vietnam. Wtf is wrong with you?
Please quote me in this thread where I praised the disrespect our soldiers received during Vietnam.
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RogerTheShrubber  LSU Fan Juneau, AK Member since Jan 2009 72101 posts
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| re: Was the treatment of Vietnam soldiers returning home somewhat mythical? (Posted on 11/24/12 at 11:37 pm to mograyback)
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What blanket statement have I made? In fact, I make the opposite of blanket statements.
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and a large amount of our soldiers represented our country very poorly. Of course people weren't going to receive them kindly, I'm glad.
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It's a team effort over there, not an individual one. Enough people acted badly to give the whole team a bad name.
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So if we watched a football game, and 6 guys did very dirty things in a game, you'd call that a dirty team. That's a lot of dirty incidents in one game. Same holds true in this case.
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JohnnyKilroy  North Carolina Fan Member since Oct 2012 5148 posts

| re: Was the treatment of Vietnam soldiers returning home somewhat mythical? (Posted on 11/24/12 at 11:39 pm to mograyback)
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a large amount of our soldiers represented our country very poorly. Of course people weren't going to receive them kindly, I'm glad.
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Interception Providence Fan Member since Nov 2008 8687 posts
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| re: Was the treatment of Vietnam soldiers returning home somewhat mythical? (Posted on 11/24/12 at 11:39 pm to mograyback)
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Please quote me in this thread where I praised the disrespect our soldiers received during Vietnam
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The war started on a false premise and a large amount of our soldiers represented our country very poorly. Of course people weren't going to receive them kindly, I'm glad.
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kilo  Missouri Fan St Louis Member since Oct 2011 4134 posts

| re: Was the treatment of Vietnam soldiers returning home somewhat mythical? (Posted on 11/24/12 at 11:41 pm to mograyback)
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Well we've certainly made up for it by now. Every military person get's their feet kissed non stop.
Mogray. You have literally been into with just about every Mizzou poster on the SECr. i see you are making friends here as well. Call me what you want but that statement is most definitely a passive aggressive shot at Military personnel. MEh. You will never understand because you have never walked the walk. Thats ok bro.
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mograyback  Missouri Fan Red Patoka Sea Member since Jul 2011 5486 posts

| re: Was the treatment of Vietnam soldiers returning home somewhat mythical? (Posted on 11/24/12 at 11:42 pm to RogerTheShrubber)
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and a large amount of our soldiers represented our country very poorly. Of course people weren't going to receive them kindly, I'm glad.
Rodger, what? What you quoted are explanations for why people had the perception they did... There were enough bad incidents reported by the media to make people think our soldiers were behaving badly. How is this a blanket statement? quote:
So if we watched a football game, and 6 guys did very dirty things in a game, you'd call that a dirty team. That's a lot of dirty incidents in one game. Same holds true in this case.
??? That is me explaining to you how it's possible the perception was created.
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LSUgusto  LSU Fan Member since May 2005 15591 posts
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| re: Was the treatment of Vietnam soldiers returning home somewhat mythical? (Posted on 11/24/12 at 11:43 pm to kilo)
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these people would NEVER say that to a veterans face because they are pussies.
esp. considering they were "flower children" and peace proponents. Did no one notice that the white Black Panther dude didn't even fight back when Forrest Gump fricked up their little party? 
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