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Squid 
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| re: Was the treatment of Vietnam soldiers returning home somewhat mythical? (Posted on 11/24/12 at 11:01 pm to mograyback)
Also no secret that the directors of these movies were anti-military. "Full Metal Jacket" included. And I'm sure this had no effect on the public's perception of Vietnam after it ended, right?
Believe what you wish.
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RogerTheShrubber 
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| re: Was the treatment of Vietnam soldiers returning home somewhat mythical? (Posted on 11/24/12 at 11:02 pm to SpartyGator)
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I havent heard any "spit on" stories but they defintely werent treated quite nicely when coming back.
Pretty sure the spitting on stories are overblown.
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SpartyGator 
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| re: Was the treatment of Vietnam soldiers returning home somewhat mythical? (Posted on 11/24/12 at 11:02 pm to mograyback)
You calling someone a dumb shit,  ok
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RogerTheShrubber
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| re: Was the treatment of Vietnam soldiers returning home somewhat mythical? (Posted on 11/24/12 at 11:03 pm to mograyback)
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I've only said why people (not me) protested against them back then, my God you are one dumb son of a bitch.
You've been proven wrong so many times in your short time here that you must be a masochist.
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Interception
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| re: Was the treatment of Vietnam soldiers returning home somewhat mythical? (Posted on 11/24/12 at 11:04 pm to mograyback)
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Well we've certainly made up for it by now.
Every military person get's their feet kissed non stop.
While nearly half of them today can't find work after coming home from war. It's the least we can do IMO. I mean, you make it sound so unfair they receive our respect?
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mograyback 
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| re: Was the treatment of Vietnam soldiers returning home somewhat mythical? (Posted on 11/24/12 at 11:04 pm to Interception)
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What's a large amount of our soldiers? We obviously have different sources on this topic so, please specify how many "soldiers represented our country very poorly" and what exactly do you believe they did?
You know damn well there is no number. How could you count every time a guy got out of hand in a bar and made himself look like an ass, or abused a hooker. There is no way to quantify how many times someone killed civilians.. so I know you are an online sports hero and expect everything to be quantified in some link but there is now way to know for sure.
What we do know for sure, is there was a perception made, and usually that's all that matters.
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SpartyGator
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| re: Was the treatment of Vietnam soldiers returning home somewhat mythical? (Posted on 11/24/12 at 11:04 pm to RogerTheShrubber)
That's what I was thinking, but I was making reference to my dad's experience at that time too.
The nasty comments were prevelant all over. It still bothers him even to this day.
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RogerTheShrubber
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| re: Was the treatment of Vietnam soldiers returning home somewhat mythical? (Posted on 11/24/12 at 11:05 pm to mograyback)
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What we do know for sure, is there was a perception made, and usually that's all that matters.
The Jerk
Fitting. Navin must be your idol.
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Interception
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| re: Was the treatment of Vietnam soldiers returning home somewhat mythical? (Posted on 11/24/12 at 11:09 pm to mograyback)
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You know damn well there is no number. How could you count every time a guy got out of hand in a bar and made himself look like an ass, or abused a hooker. There is no way to quantify how many times someone killed civilians.. so I know you are an online sports hero and expect everything to be quantified in some link but there is now way to know for sure.
What we do know for sure, is there was a perception made, and usually that's all that matters.
This was a 2 part question if I reread correctly the previous post that I directed towards you?
What were these atrocities?
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mograyback
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| re: Was the treatment of Vietnam soldiers returning home somewhat mythical? (Posted on 11/24/12 at 11:09 pm to Interception)
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While nearly half of them today can't find work after coming home from war. It's the least we can do IMO. I mean, you make it sound so unfair they receive our respect?
News flash. A lot of people can't find work.
And yes, we go a bit overboard in our military love. I especially have a problem with blind love.
For instance, my brother in law did ROTC. He had his college paid for, got a great living allowance while in school, so he could afford to have a nice apartment, eat well, and drink plenty of beer. Now he spends his service time living in a beach side condo in FLA. He gets overpaid, plus get's a housing and food allowance, meaning he pockets everything he makes... and he'll be blindly slobbered over the same way someone who fought in battle.
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Godfather1
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| re: Was the treatment of Vietnam soldiers returning home somewhat mythical? (Posted on 11/24/12 at 11:09 pm to mograyback)
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mograyback
You come across as either a non-hacker, or somebody who never had the guts to serve to begin with.
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prplhze2000
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| re: Was the treatment of Vietnam soldiers returning home somewhat mythical? (Posted on 11/24/12 at 11:11 pm to Powerman)
Friend of mine was spit on at the airport. Wasn't rare at all depending on what part of the country you were in.
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mograyback
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| re: Was the treatment of Vietnam soldiers returning home somewhat mythical? (Posted on 11/24/12 at 11:12 pm to Squid)
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Also no secret that the directors of these movies were anti-military. "Full Metal Jacket" included
How could you not pick up the sarcasm? I was joking about Full Metal Jacket, wow.
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And I'm sure this had no effect on the public's perception of Vietnam after it ended, right?
And these movies came out after Nam, Platoon was an 80's movie. The perception was well cemented before Hollywood got involved. Boom.
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Spandex Flamingo
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| re: Was the treatment of Vietnam soldiers returning home somewhat mythical? (Posted on 11/24/12 at 11:13 pm to mograyback)
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a large amount of our soldiers represented our country very poorly. Of course people weren't going to receive them kindly, I'm glad.
Same stuff happens today, yet soldiers generally receive better treatment. Either we're now desensitized or we learned to blame the government. Or the climate was just very volatile during Vietnam.
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mograyback
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| re: Was the treatment of Vietnam soldiers returning home somewhat mythical? (Posted on 11/24/12 at 11:13 pm to Godfather1)
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You come across as either a non-hacker, or somebody who never had the guts to serve to begin with.
I'd like to know one thing I've said that isn't accurate in this thread.. thanks.
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Godfather1
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| re: Was the treatment of Vietnam soldiers returning home somewhat mythical? (Posted on 11/24/12 at 11:14 pm to mograyback)
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And these movies came out after Nam, Platoon was an 80's movie. The perception was well cemented before Hollywood got involved. Boom.
And according to your profile, you were born 12 years after we pulled out of Vietnam, so WTF do you really know about it?
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mograyback
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| re: Was the treatment of Vietnam soldiers returning home somewhat mythical? (Posted on 11/24/12 at 11:16 pm to Spandex Flamingo)
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Same stuff happens today, yet soldiers generally receive better treatment. Either we're now desensitized or we learned to blame the government. Or the climate was just very volatile during Vietnam.
This isn't tough to figure out.
More people understand why we are fighting today. While some oppose our war in the middle east, more people can understand why we're there (9/11).
Nam was also the first war the was scene on tv, we are probably a bit desensitized to things now.
Also, I think the negative stuff got more press back then, today it get's kind of breezed through in the news usually.
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mograyback
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| re: Was the treatment of Vietnam soldiers returning home somewhat mythical? (Posted on 11/24/12 at 11:17 pm to Godfather1)
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And according to your profile, you were born 12 years after we pulled out of Vietnam, so WTF do you really know about it?
Again, what have I said in this thread that is inaccurate.
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LSUgusto
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| re: Was the treatment of Vietnam soldiers returning home somewhat mythical? (Posted on 11/24/12 at 11:18 pm to Spandex Flamingo)
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Or the climate was just very volatile during Vietnam
One of many tactics deployed to foment public opinion against a stupidly orchestrated "conflict".
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kilo
Missouri Fan
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| re: Was the treatment of Vietnam soldiers returning home somewhat mythical? (Posted on 11/24/12 at 11:19 pm to Powerman)
Im 100% certain that 99% of these loudmouths lack the intestinal fortitude to say any of this negative shite to a veterans face.
What a bunch of pussies.
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