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| re: BPL Matches 11/24/2012 (Posted on 11/24/12 at 8:03 pm to Bho)
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Scholes made enough bad challenges to be sent off today.
Agreed. Wasn't that his first real bad one?
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| re: BPL Matches 11/24/2012 (Posted on 11/24/12 at 8:05 pm to PTBob)
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We're top of the table
Playing 9 on 11 and still needing to be offsides to win? Good God you are more delusional than I thought.
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| re: BPL Matches 11/24/2012 (Posted on 11/24/12 at 8:05 pm to WarSlamEagle)
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Wasn't that his first real bad one?
Not really sure what you are asking here.
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| re: BPL Matches 11/24/2012 (Posted on 11/24/12 at 8:10 pm to Bho)
 
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| re: BPL Matches 11/24/2012 (Posted on 11/24/12 at 8:31 pm to Bho)
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Wasn't that Scholes's first bad tackle of the match? Remember, I didn't start watching until after the equalizer.
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| re: BPL Matches 11/24/2012 (Posted on 11/24/12 at 8:44 pm to WarSlamEagle)
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Wasn't that Scholes's first bad tackle of the match? Remember, I didn't start watching until after the equalizer.
Did you watch the gif? That was the 10th minute. He had two tackles that were yellows before he actually got a yellow late in the match.
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| re: BPL Matches 11/24/2012 (Posted on 11/24/12 at 8:45 pm to Bho)
I know that was the tenth minute, I can freaking read.
I'm asking if that was the first yellow-worthy tackle.
ETA: Scholes got booked in the 55th minute.
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| re: BPL Matches 11/24/2012 (Posted on 11/24/12 at 8:50 pm to WarSlamEagle)
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I'm asking if that was the first yellow-worthy tackle.
Yes, from what I can remember. That was a yellow at minimum regardless. Then he had another one right after half that even the announcer was questioning why he wasn't booked. Then he actually got carded in the 55th.
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| re: BPL Matches 11/24/2012 (Posted on 11/24/12 at 9:03 pm to Jumbeauxlaya)
Seeing that tackle for the first time and it looks like a red to me. Doesn't look like he even went for the ball. Then again, it is Scholes.
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| re: BPL Matches 11/24/2012 (Posted on 11/24/12 at 10:05 pm to Bho)
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Yes, from what I can remember. That was a yellow at minimum regardless.
Yep. Definitely card-worthy. Probably too early for a straight red, though.
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| re: BPL Matches 11/24/2012 (Posted on 11/24/12 at 10:13 pm to WarSlamEagle)
Eh....I hate United more than any of you, but I'm not so sure its a red. Then again I'm definitely more liberal when it comes to tackling than most on this board.
The slide itself wasn't as bad as the scissor. The scissor motion was terrible.
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| re: BPL Matches 11/24/2012 (Posted on 11/24/12 at 10:15 pm to WarSlamEagle)
Never too early for a red.
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I think you get the point.
ETA:I'm not saying it was a red, but he didn't even get carded for that.
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| re: BPL Matches 11/24/2012 (Posted on 11/24/12 at 10:17 pm to BleedPurpleGold)
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Eh....I hate United more than any of you, but I'm not so sure its a red.
Then obviously you don't hate United more than everyone else. 
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| re: BPL Matches 11/24/2012 (Posted on 11/24/12 at 10:20 pm to BleedPurpleGold)
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Eh....I hate United more than any of you, but I'm not so sure its a red. Then again I'm definitely more liberal when it comes to tackling than most on this board.
I don't hate united but I can't believe anybody who watches the epl with regularity doesn't think that tackle should have been a red card. Even if Scholes wins the ball there, it's still a red due to the way he went into it, and in typical Scholes fashion he was nowhere close.
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| re: BPL Matches 11/24/2012 (Posted on 11/24/12 at 10:22 pm to BleedPurpleGold)
How much I hate United doesn't factor much into that tackle. Unlike what WSE said, what minute the tackle occurs should have very little bearing on the official's judgement if it is a clear decision which that looks like. It's very similar to the Shelvey red IMO.
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| re: BPL Matches 11/24/2012 (Posted on 11/24/12 at 10:25 pm to WarSlamEagle)
BPL Matches 11/24/2012
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Eh....I hate United more than any of you, but I'm not so sure its a red.
Then obviously you don't hate United more than everyone else.
What does which club you support have to do with what a red card is/isn't? You Man U fans are such twats, everything anybody says about man u y'all turn into some sort of victimization and end the argument feeling sorry for yourselves. If that match was wigan v stoke or Mexico v. Giuseppe Rossi and neven subotic I'd still think it was a red. The fact that it was united (Scholes) has nothing to do with it.
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| re: BPL Matches 11/24/2012 (Posted on 11/24/12 at 10:27 pm to BobLoblaw)
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can't believe anybody who watches the epl with regularity doesn't think that tackle should have been a red card
Well believe it. Because I exist.
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Even if Scholes wins the ball there, it's still a red due to the way he went into it, and in typical Scholes fashion he was nowhere close.
His studs were turned away. The scissor was awful, I understand if you want to give him a red for that. I'm just saying I'm not so sure.
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| re: BPL Matches 11/24/2012 (Posted on 11/24/12 at 10:28 pm to LSUSOBEAST1)
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How much I hate United doesn't factor much into that tackle.
I was qualifying my statement. That's all.
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It's very similar to the Shelvey red IMO.
I wasn't sure about Shelvey's red either. But you have to realize I've played my entire life on defense. I'm more inclined to just say play on.
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| re: BPL Matches 11/24/2012 (Posted on 11/24/12 at 10:29 pm to BobLoblaw)
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What does which club you support have to do with what a red card is/isn't?
Jesus fricking Christ people. I was just qualifying my statement to show that I should be biased the other way.
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| re: BPL Matches 11/24/2012 (Posted on 11/24/12 at 10:30 pm to BleedPurpleGold)
If both feet are off the ground all his weight is going into the tackle. It doesn't matter if he touches the ball, or his studs are up. A two footed tackle is supposed to be straight red because even if the tackler does everything correct it is still inherently a dangerous play. The Shelvey red was referenced, and it was definitely similar. Stuart holden is still not playing because of a 2 footed challenge (granted Evans did have studs showing, but the knee injury was caused by 180 lbs of force from Evans tackle)
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