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Would finances improve for the Union after secession?

Granted these numbers are based on 2004-05, they hold to the trend today. It appears a red state secession would leave them in a rough situation. How has it become the talking point that democratic states are draining the federal money per person when this isn't the case?

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re: Would finances improve for the Union after secession?


:notthisshitagain:

:holyfrick:



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Spirit of Dunson
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re: Would finances improve for the Union after secession?
Easy, if the red states form their own nation, they won't need federal dollars since they will just let the poor and old die in the streets. Problem solved.


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jcole4lsu
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re: Would finances improve for the Union after secession?
Where do you think all the welfare queens and illegals would end up?

Not the csa pal.


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re: Would finances improve for the Union after secession?
How much money from the GOM goes to the Treasury? Does that factor into the income from the state?


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re: Would finances improve for the Union after secession?
Gosh no, that would make the chart invalid. I wonder if military expenditures are included in the comparison. That would skew as well.

This is a scratch the surface meme that pops up from time to time.


RogerTheShrubber
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Holy shite. This must be the talking point of the day on MSNBC


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RogerTheShrubber
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re: Would finances improve for the Union after secession?
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This is a scratch the surface meme that pops up from time to time.



My guess is the people who don't pay taxes and receive services will move to "blue states" and their problem will still exist, only more concentrated.


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MDcajuntiger
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re: Would finances improve for the Union after secession?
If secession ever occurred, IMO it would have been precipitated by financial collapse of the current system, hence the finances on both sides of the fences would likely be in terrible shape after the split.


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udtiger
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re: Would finances improve for the Union after secession?
No. Because once the "Red State" governments pull the plug on welfare programs, the "recipients" would be flocking to the Union, becoming their problem.


Roaad
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re: Would finances improve for the Union after secession?
If the Red States seceded, the democrats would go to the Blue states.

Crime and poverty would improve drastically in the South. Like New Orleans a year after Katrina.

There would be a tremendous demographic shift.

All the oil in the red states would strangle the blue states.

Industry in the Blue would move to the corporate-friendly Red.

The Blue would have to declare war just to stave off economic collapse. . .or political collapse with no jobs, and therefore no money to pay the entitlement programs.


Layabout
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re: Would finances improve for the Union after secession?
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Because once the "Red State" governments pull the plug on welfare programs, the "recipients" would be flocking to the Union, becoming their problem.


Don't assume that open borders would continue to exist. Immigration would more than likely be limited to people with demonstrated means or desirable skill sets.

The dependent population would be frozen in situ. And guess who has the larger share of them.


udtiger
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on't assume that open borders would continue to exist. Immigration would more than likely be limited to people with demonstrated means or desirable skill sets.


Funny that this is a requirement that the Dems refuse to impose on actual foreigners today.


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RogerTheShrubber
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re: Would finances improve for the Union after secession?
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Don't assume that open borders would continue to exist. Immigration would more than likely be limited to people with demonstrated means or desirable skill sets.


You know damn well it would, for "human rights" purposes.

Don't pretend it wouldn't.


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wavebreaker
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re: Would finances improve for the Union after secession?
Capital would flee to least taxing region.


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Roaad
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re: Would finances improve for the Union after secession?
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Don't assume that open borders would continue to exist.
From the party that wants amnesty for illegal immigrants. . .

NOW stricter border laws are a GOOD thing?


sweet mother of irony


Roaad
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And guess who has the larger share of them.
democrats


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RogerTheShrubber
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re: Would finances improve for the Union after secession?
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NOW stricter border laws are a GOOD thing?


sweet mother of irony


Yeah, he didn't think that one through.


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RLDSC FAN
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re: Would finances improve for the Union after secession?
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There would be a tremendous demographic shift.



yep but that would mean the SEC would no longer be the dominant football conference


Roaad
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yep but that would mean the SEC would no longer be the dominant football conference
yep.

Baseball and soccer would explode, though.


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