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This just screams to me that your video card is too much for your power supply.


What video card are you using with that power supply ?


And what is the EXACT model of the power supply ?



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Charleaux
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No beeps but again I don't have one of those tiny speakers that hook up on the mobo pin like they do in the tutorial I've been following. That's why I was hoping to use my monitor to tell me it's booting up.

My video card is a xfx 7850 2gb and my power supply is a coolmax 140mm v-600 atx12 version 2.2






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Start by listing the exact model of every part you bought.

No video is such a common symptom that there's no way it can be diagnosed accurately with such little information. I highly doubt it's an issue with your card requiring more power than your PSU is offering unless the PSU is faulty. You generally wouldn't see symptoms of that until you start playing a game or running a benchmark that will max out the card's thermal design power (TDP). Most high end cards these days have around 200-250w TDP, with the exception of a few outliers such as the 6990.

Here's a few things that can cause a computer to power on but not display video. They are in no particular order, and some of them are rare:

Bad motherboard
Bad power supply
Bad CPU
Bent socket pins
Incompatible RAM
Bad RAM
Bad DIMM slot being occupied by working RAM
Bad video card
Bad video card port
Forgot to connect PSU 8-pin connector to board
Incompatible RAM
No RAM
Incorrectly seated RAM
Incorrectly seated video card
Motherboard limitations between memory controller and SATA ports (e.g., cheaper motherboards might disable 1 SATA port if all 4 DIMM slots are occupied)
Bad Monitor
clear CMOS jumper missing
Bad CMOS battery
Memory profile needs to be set in bios before occupying all four DIMM slots
Incompatible CPU (for example, an ivy bridge installed in a Z68 that needs a bios update)

Just to name a few.

You didn't mention if you have an internal speaker in your case, which would provide beep codes to help you diagnose the problem. I know you're still working outside the case but I recommend connecting that speaker anyway. If you do have the speaker connected and are not getting beeps, any of the above can still be true. Modern motherboards have LEDs that light up in a series during post to indicate which controllers/hardware is initializing. The LEDs will hang at a certain point and the mobo won't post, and you'll be able to see where it's gone wrong.






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No beeps but again I don't have one of those tiny speakers that hook up on the mobo pin like they do in the tutorial I've been following. That's why I was hoping to use my monitor to tell me it's booting up.

My video card is a xfx 7850 2gb and my power supply is a coolmax 140mm v-600 atx12 version 2.2



You need to connect a speaker. Check your case connectors. Some cases have the speaker built in, while others come with a small separate one. Hopefully you bought a decent case, though some good cases still come with neither. Which is annoying.

Your video card has a max TDP of 150watts. Your PSU wattage is fine for that because I know you have no plans to overclock.

You made a bad decision on that power supply. It's a very common newbie mistake, though, to skimp on the power supply, when in fact you should've budgeted at least $75 for it. I'm not saying that the PSU is necessarily causing your symptoms at the moment, but you may experience issues later with capacitor aging, voltage spikes, etc. that could affect your other components. Or, it may be just fine. It's a gamble. Rule of thumb when in doubt, always buy a PSU with at least a 4-star review average with a fair number of reviews (50-100+).

EDIT: If you have happen to live around BR and your board/cpu are socket 1155, I have a spare 1155 PC we can use to swap out parts and almost certainly find out exactly what's wrong.



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I don't have one of those tiny speakers that hook up on the mobo pin like they do in the tutorial I've been following.

Mobo or case doesnt have a built in one? Or perhaps a debug LED on the Mobo?

We really need to know if we are booting before further diagnosis is possible. All the fans spinning doesnt mean much right now. Lets look into getting a speaker before we start a wholesale switching of expensive parts.






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Charleaux
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I'm about to head out for the family Thanksgiving meal but I'll check for the speaker when I get back.

Here is the list of my components:
i5-2500k
xfx 7850 2gb
ECS p67h2-a3 atx lga1155 mobo
Coolmax 600w power supply
ballistix 2x4gb memory
nzxt source 210 elite atx midtower case
seagate barracuda 500gb 3.5'' 7200rpm hard drive
and a cheap dvd/cd burner

I live in NOLA so if I can't figure out what is wrong, I might just have to arrange something with you






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ill be honest, im not super excited about putting a $180 vid card and $200 cpu in a $40 board.

other than that - see if you can find a store thats open and will have a speaker - it will cost you nearly nothing. that vid card needs at least a 500w PSU so you should be fine there, however you may have received a defective unit with a weak rail, in which case you'll have to exchange it.






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Charleaux
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Yeah it started out as a budget build and I bought most of the cheap components. I thought I shouldn't take the cheap option for the CPU and video card, which I thought were the important for gaming, so i ended up spending more on those than I had originally thought.





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yeah, i would take the opposite approach. its much easier to upgrade peripherals and processors than switching out boards. and a cheap board can fry everything attached to it.

if this board happens to be bad and you need to RMA it, i would encourage you to spend an extra few dollars and upgrade it.

if this one isnt the problem then i wouldnt worry about it. first things first though - go get that speaker.






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Make sure you are plugging your monitor into the video card and not possible on board is what I meant to say.. altho I doubt this is it since you are looking at your video card I assume*


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quote:

should I use a dvi-dvi cable instead?


Please buy the correct cables and try that. A lot of converter cables are trash and do not always work as intended.






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I had a similar problem on my first build. First things first, triple check that your 24pin and 8pin connectors are securely connected. Next, reseat your RAM and read your mobo manual to make sure they are in the correct dimms. Reseat your GPU. Make sure your mobo is secure to the standoffs.
This thread is a livesaver






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Would be a lot easier to troubleshoot with a better mobo w/on-board video and a speaker






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Had two HDMI cables go bad on me. Both worked on other computers, used on new build, all was going great until video card driver install. Then I got what you got, powering up, then "no input signal". Swapped in another cable, same thing. Brand new HDMI cable worked.

If tl;dr

Try new HDMI cable/s.






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If you're not carrying audio then there's no need for HDMI or any converters, go straight DVI





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Charleaux
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Update

I've had to go out of town for work the last 2 months so i just now got around to tinkering with my build some more and testing everyone's theories and helpful links.

I tried starting up the components I've put together with the mobo speaker I've purchased based on you guys' suggestion but I don't get any beeps/sounds from it. I am pretty sure all my cables are connected properly. I honestly think I bit off more than I can chew trying to build this myself.

Does anyone from the greater Nola area would know of somebody that could help me physically figure out my issues. I'm not very computer savvy, so it would be easier for someone to test it rather trying to explain my issues.

Thanks in advance guys.






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I hate to insult you by pointing out the obvious, but do you have your monitor on the HDMI channel? There should be a button that switches between the different input methods. Have you tried plugging it in to a tv with the HDMI cable?





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ILikeLSUToo
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Wish I could help, but I'm in BR. I think quite a few of us are in BR, so if you get a free weekend to yourself, might be worth the trip.





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Charleaux
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Yeah I did try switching my monitor setting but I still don't get any input.

I have to work this weekend but I could make the drive the following weekend if someone was willing to help!






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all the fans spin but no boot or beeps?
Take all the ram out, light it up and if you get no beeps again its probably the psu






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