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buckboudreaux
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obama lesscare....


when it hits the fan and several large corp. close or shrink...will it still be worth it...






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Champagne
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does not matter

Obamacare will be implemented no matter what. Well, actually, it will never be fully implemented, because FedGov will never stop tinkering with it . . . FedGov will tinker endlessly with healthcare, now that they have the authority to do so.






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CamdenTiger
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when it hits the fan and several large corp. close or shrink...will it still be worth it


No, cause thats more dependency created. Its only when all the rural hospitals close, or the remaining system is over-whelmed...The good news is that competing low-cost med services entities will start popping up...Don't know where this is headed, but America is resiliant. Short term bad, but we'll survive Obama, hopefully.






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Elcid96
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To some progressive of course it will be worth it, but hey they will cut their nose to spite their face.

They will never take any responsibility for the adverse affects, they will blame businesses etc.






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RockyMtnTigerWDE
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To some progressive of course it will be worth it, but hey they will cut their nose to spite their face.

They will never take any responsibility for the adverse affects, they will blame businesses etc.


And blame conservatives.






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Elcid96
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And blame conservatives.


Of course. They couldn't be wrong, because they have the best "intentions".

In their world, everyone should get a trophy. They want all the authority with no responsibility.






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ArkLaTexTiger
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I went to my MD for a physical exam yesterday and the receptionist told me my insurance company doesn't require a $20 copay because of Obamacare.





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VOR
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My prediction is that, yes, there will be difficulties and missteps with the implementation, and there will be adjustments made and we'll adapt to the changes. In the end, there likely will be some form of a "public option" for coverage. I think we may very well end up with some some sort of a hybrid system with public and private insurance. It will not be the disaster predicted by most posters here.





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RockyMtnTigerWDE
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It will not be the disaster predicted by most posters here.


Of course you don't, it's what you voted for. You and your ilk wouldn't admit it even when it becomes a disaster. No shocker there.






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Elcid96
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I thought it was suppose to bring the cost of healthcare down and save 500 billion?

I guess that is now off the table now and replaced with!! Everyone will have to adapt!







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VOR
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I thought it was suppose to bring the cost of healthcare down and save 500 billion?

I guess that is now off the table now and replaced with!! Everyone will have to adapt!



Hmmm, I went back and looked at my post . . . . nope, I didn't say that.

Costs will be contained eventually. Some won't like how we get there.






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VOR
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You and your ilk


I've always thought the use of the word "ilk" was sort of funny.






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Lsut81
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Hmmm, I went back and looked at my post . . . . nope, I didn't say that.



But your fearless leaders did.... Remember down 2500 dollars within the next 2yrs but its up 4k if I remember right

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Costs will be contained eventually


Yeah, just like costs at the postal office have been contained

Govt doesn't do anything financially efficient, only the private sector.







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VOR
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Yeah, just like costs at the postal office have been contained

Govt doesn't do anything financially efficient, only the private sector.




You may wish to learn more about the Post Office, its budget, its revenue stream and what services it provides on its budget. It's not the example you really want to use.






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Lsut81
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You may wish to learn more about the Post Office, its budget, its revenue stream and what services it provides on its budget. It's not the example you really want to use.


How is it not? Its a govt run entity that cannot get out of the red.... And its funny you say "budget", what fricking budget, whats the point of a budget, they NEVER are under or close to budget.

What was the last shortfall? 14B if I remember right?






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RockyMtnTigerWDE
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So you're saying the post office isn't run by the government? That was his point. Shall we include SS, Medicare, etc. are those better examples? Or do they have special budget conditions, revenue streams, or services provided.?





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VOR
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Hmmmm, it's actually a separate entity that receives very little of its operating budget from Congress. It's mandated to do a lot at costs that are far below market. It's far from perfect but receives a bit of a bad rap.





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Lsut81
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Hmmmm, it's actually a separate entity that receives very little of its operating budget from Congress. It's mandated to do a lot at costs that are far below market. It's far from perfect but receives a bit of a bad rap.



What the frick ever... Receives a bad rap? It is a HORRIBLE entity. The service is dog shite and the employees are overpaid. They lost 25B between 07-11' and fell short another 9B just recently.

Its a bunch of Federal dumbshits trying to run a business.


I'll let that one slide for you, so now what about SS, Medicare, Medicaid??? Govt does a great job running those too?






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RogerTheShrubber
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when it hits the fan and several large corp. close or shrink...will it still be worth it...


I doubt it's set up to be successful. It's set up to morph into a single payer system.

Probably a quandary for the hard core leftist though.






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VOR
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SS, Medicare,


Meh, those aren't really run any worse that an insurance company. Their problem is their mandate and their funding.

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Medicaid


This one is fricked up. But one of its major problems is fraud in the private sector on the part of clinics and healthcare providers.






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