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BarDTiger81
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I gave my mom a BMC mix about ten years ago. She still has her and if the dog does not know you, you are not getting close to my mom unless you wanna get bit.





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Dupont3
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Catahoula





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Langston
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Cenla
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I still don't think enough people whip their dogs into shape when they are younger


My grandmother made the comment last weekend about how hard I was on my dog when it was young. Takes work to disciple a stubborn dog but well worth it in the end.






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Dupont3
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Catahoula dog





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AlxTgr
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Kyre Banorg
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You guys have not addressed the hair factory, stink factory nor the coffee table clearing tail.





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CP3
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Nah she's about to hit the 8 month mark soon. A little discipline is all it takes.

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You guys have not addressed the hair factory, stink factory nor the coffee table clearing tail.


Hair and stink aren't too bad. Brush and vacuum once a week, and give her the occasional bath.

Ill give you the tail though. She's cleared the coffee table a few times






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CajunCowboy35
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A lab inside is a pain. They are always hyper and always find the one thing in the house you really didn't want them to destroy





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Yeti
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I still don't think enough people whip their dogs into shape when they are younger. Usually, the people that bitch about me doing it are the ones whose dogs are always on the sofa, eating food off of the table, and shitting in the house.







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TigerTreyjpg
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I still don't think enough people whip their dogs into shape when they are younger. Usually, the people that bitch about me doing it are the ones whose dogs are always on the sofa, eating food off of the table, and shitting in the house


Man I wish someone other than me would explain this to my wife. We got a Ridgeback in November. She was about 2 I think when we got her. Great dog btw, well behaved, and she's an inside/outside dog. Part of the reason she's well behaved is 'cause of the discipline I've meated out from time to time though. My wife thinks you can just tell her NO. frick, she's a dog. She speaks dog. She does not speak wife.






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Langston
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Cenla
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My wife thinks you can just tell her NO. frick, she's a dog. She speaks dog. She does not speak wife.



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Yeti
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She does not speak wife
I feel your pain. My SO tries to baby the frick out of my dog






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SpeckledTiger
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I still don't think enough people whip their dogs into shape when they are younger. I did it, and had a buddy tell me the other week,"Damn, I used to hate on you for whipping your dog when he was little, but that is the most well behaved dog I have ever seen". Only had to get after him once in the past 2 years. Usually, the people that bitch about me doing it are the ones whose dogs are always on the sofa, eating food off of the table, and shitting in the house.



I call bull shite. If you have to use aggression to train your dog, you need to learn better training techniques and take some time to learn the instinctive behaviors of the animal you are training. I've trained many dogs at all ages from new born up to about 8 years old (well past the best training period) and never once have I had to hit or whip a dog or use a choke collar even. I fostered 10 lab mix puppies from birth to adoption at 8 weeks and had them trained to sit and stay (mostly, didn't have but a week or so to work on the "stay" command with them) by the time they were adopted out. Still have the mother, a border collie/lab mix that was neglected and beaten regularly before she found us. She is now a well trained family pet that I rarely even have to raise my voice too. I always find that people who use physical aggression to train an animal lack the persistence and patients to do it properly. Hell, I even have my cats trained to a few basic commands.






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Langston
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Cenla
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How does
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whip


turn into
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use aggression

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hit

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use physical aggression


I whip my kid and my dog when they are out of line and I wouldnt call it any of these terms. There is nothing aggressive about it and Im not angry when I do it, just simple discipline they can understand. If my kid can get it, my dog is okay getting it too.



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SpeckledTiger
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learn the instinctive behaviors of the animal you are training


This is what makes them different. A dog's natural instinct is to match aggression with aggression. Physical contact in a corrective manner is a form of aggression to an animal whether that how you intend it not (aggression does not equal abuse). For most children, this is not the case. An animal doesn't need to be "broken" (speaking mentally of course) to be trained. Do some dogs need it? Possibly but in my experience they respond much better to positive reinforcement as opposed to negative reinforcement. But implying that whipping an animal should be the more common standard is incorrect imho.



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AlxTgr
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I call bull shite. If you have to use aggression to train your dog, you need to learn better training techniques and take some time to learn the instinctive behaviors of the animal you are training.


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Langston
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I believe there are several ways to train them. Some people and dogs do better from different ways, at least in my experience. From what I read and seen from some high profile trainers, both are used.





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AlxTgr
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If you don't beat 'em while they're young, they'll hate you for it later.





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sullivjh
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If you have to use aggression to train your dog, you need to learn better training techniques


It's a dog. They learned that way in the wild. The alpha male wouldn't baby another dog into acting right. He'd beat that ass. I don't beat a dog for the sake of beating him, but he is damn sure going to learn who's the boss.

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I always find that people who use physical aggression to train an animal lack the persistence and patients to do it properly


You must be that guy who puts his kids in "timeout." Spare the rod, spoil the child... and the dog.



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sullivjh
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An animal doesn't need to be "broken" (speaking mentally of course) to be trained


Have you ever tried to train a horse with love and tenderness? You will get your head smashed in quick, fast, and in a hurry. Most animals must be "broken" in order to become useful. Examples - dogs, horses, mules, bulls (in the days when they were used to cultivate land). Breaking an animal isn't about breaking its spirit, but it is about established dominance over that creature.






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TigerDeacon
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I don't believe in "beating" a dog, but a "swat" along with a stern voice will convey the message. However, if you're still having to physically correct a dog when it is grown, then you have failed at training.

I also don't usually believe in the use of choke collars, but we had to use one on the great dane/lab stray that showed up at our camp. He was 100lbs, starved and still a puppy. When he filled out, he didn't know his strength. Took him to obedience training and the trainer immediately told us that we needed to get one of the training collars with the metal spikes that dig into the neck. If we didn't use it, it took all the strenght of a full grown man to get him to stop if he started to run.






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