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udtiger
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They don't give away as much free shite as the Dems. Plus, the GOP at least talks about personal responsibility, which isn't too popular with the vast majority of that demo.





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Roaad
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How did Republicans lose African-Americans?
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trackfan
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In 1956, Ike carried the Black vote. In 1960, Nixon won 32% of the Black vote despite the fact that Martin Luther Kink, Sr. campaigned for JFK to return the favor of him intervening to get his son out of the Birmingham jail. In 1964, LBJ championed the 1964 Civil Rights Bill and Goldwater, who supported the 1957 and 1960 Civil Right Bills, opposed it on Libertarian grounds. The billed passed with bipartisan support despite being opposed by 95% of southern Democrats and 100% of southern Republicans. Predictably, 1964 was a single issue election for Blacks and they voted overwehelmingly for LBJ. In 1968, the Republican Party adopted the Southern Stratgey which cemented the Black vote to the Democratic Party. Here's how Colin Powell described his reaction to the famous Willie Horton ad in 1988:

"Since I had served in the White House during the 1988 presidential election, people in Atlanta, and everywhere, occasionally asked how I felt about the Willie Horton television spot used against Michael Dukakis, the Democratic candidate. Horton, a black convict, had raped a woman and stabbed a man while on a weekend pass from a Massachusetts prison during the time Dukakis was the state's governor. Was the ad depicting this incident racist? Of course! Had it bothered me? Certainly! Republican strategists had made a cold political calculation: no amount of money or effort could make a dent in the Democratic hold on the black vote, so don't try. Some had gone even further if the racial card could be played to appeal to certain constituencies, play it. The Horton ad served that purpose. It was a political cheap shot."


Bobby Jindal said something last week that really resonated with me and members of my family:

"If we want people to like us, we have to like them first. You don't start to like people by insulting them by saying their votes were bought."

Here's how JC Watts summed it up this summer:

“With all due respect to Governor Romney, he’s probably doing it to check the box,” Watts told CBS News. “Having a Republican candidate speak at the NAACP convention is like trying to build a house starting at the roof. If you don’t have a foundation, the roof isn’t going to stand.”

Watts argues that the Republican Party is not serious about dedicating the time and money necessary to establishing serious ties with leaders in the black community. He wonders why, for example, the GOP isn’t working harder to form strong relationships with southern black religious leaders. “Republicans think that the NAACP is the only voice in the black community. It is a voice in the black community. But it’s not the only voice.”

“The establishment wonders why we can’t get more of the black vote,” he added. “It’s because it’s not doing the things necessary to establish a deeper relationship with the black community. Most black people don’t think alike. Most black people just vote alike.”







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a want
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"If we want people to like us, we have to like them first. You don't start to like people by insulting them by saying their votes were bought."








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udtiger
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their votes were bought


Truth fricking hurts.






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trackfan
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LBJ is the answer.

LBJ was big but I don't think Blacks would have married the Democratic party without the Southern Strategy. Ironically, it was Nixon who first championed Affirmative Action.






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Roaad
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The GOP message will never resonate with blacks as long as dependence on government isn't a GOP platform.

As someone who deals with the AA community as part of their vocation, I can tell you the OVERWHELMING #1 reason given for "hating Romney":

"He gonna take our food stamps"

Now surely the middle class and upper class blacks have other reasons. But this is the leading reason I heard from the HS age kids, who obviously acquired it from their parents.






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llfshoals
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The whole 70% single mother deal is telling. Get that gov't check.



This number was nowhere NEAR this high before the 60s.

LBJ


Saddest part of that? It's still going up. The black family has been virtually destroyed, without even a whimper of protest.






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trackfan
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their votes were bought
Truth fricking hurts.

Obviously some people can't handle the truth, when you consider the fact that Asians, Jews and middle-class and upper-class Blacks all voted overwhelmingly for Obama.






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Roaad
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The black family has been virtually destroyed
War on Drugs destroyed the black family.






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trackfan
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Now surely the middle class and upper class blacks have other reasons.

Michael Steele, Colin Powell and JC Watts have already answered this question but folks like you can't handle the truth.






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udtiger
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"He's gonna put you in chains."

The OP asked why the GOP "lost" blacks. Therefore, your references to Jews and Asians is as fricking useless as your typical contributions to this board.

As for Jews, you are apparently not acquainted with the term self-hating/self-loathing Jew. They are generally NE "intellectual" and associate themselves with the Dems/Libs. They are embarassed by Israel (they essentially view it like they do the "religious right").

Asians, I don't even suppose why they are so into the Dems.






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Roaad
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folks like you can't handle the truth.
Nothing I have posted runs counter to any truth.

If it does, I would beg an explanation.






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stat19
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Robert Bird





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CarrolltonTiger
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How insulting to the Negro, you act as if they are a commodity to be lost or found. They are a monolithinc group that chooses to vote in their best interests. Being economically unproductive, at risk, in need of rehabilitation, parole and at a general disadvantage in society they want the protection of the party that protects the marginal and supports income transfers and measures to equalize outcomes.





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RCDfan1950
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[quote]moderate thinkers[/quote]



I'm sure that African Americans and White Independents had to do some serious "thinking" to decide who to vote for in this election.

Answer to the OP...Government giveaways...in manifold forms. From Affirmative Action to handing out SS Disability to young blacks found to have ADHD. Which they do.

PS, MC...Obama IS the leader of a "fringe group".

And I can tell you what that 'rebel flag' means...don't try to cram your government control crap down our throats. Or we'll take it to the streets. Obama is no better than those guys; his Rev. Wright ties to Farrakhan proves it. Of course...you brilliant "thinking", *Moderates* somehow miss that pink elephant in the room.

Get real!







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prplhze2000
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re: How did Republicans lose African-Americans?


you don't understand the black community.





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Hammond Tiger Fan
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you don't understand the black community


damn near 90% of the posters on here don't understand the black community and the reason why most vote democractically.


People on here thinks it's b/c of some free handouts from the gov't but that is way far from the truth. Y'all really need to stop watching Fox News and believe what they broadcast on TV. Get out and mingle with "black" folks and you will clearly see why they vote democratically.






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CarrolltonTiger
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Michael Steele, Colin Powell and JC Watts have already answered this question but folks like you can't handle the truth.


Opportunism and self-interest? Peer pressure, race consciousness?

What is the self-evident truth of which you write?






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Ponchy Tiger
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re: How did Republicans lose African-Americans?


Alot of historians believe that the turning point was the 1927 flood.

LINK

The flood propelled Secretary of Commerce Herbert Hoover, who was in charge of flood relief operations, into the national spotlight and set the stage for his election to the presidency, but indirectly contributed to his defeat four years later. The flood also aided Huey Long's election to the governorship of Louisiana in 1928.[10]:408-409, 477, 487 Hoover was much lauded for his masterful handling of the refugee camps, but later concerns over the treatment of blacks in those camps caused him to make promises to the African-American community which he later broke, losing the black vote in his reelection campaign.[10]:259-290, passim Several reports on the terrible situation in the refugee camps, including one by the Colored Advisory Commission by Robert Russa Moton, were kept out of the media at Hoover's request, with the pledge of further reforms for blacks after the presidential election. When he failed to deliver, Moton and other influential African-Americans helped to shift the allegiance of Black Americans from the Republican party to Franklin Delano Roosevelt and the Democrats.[10]:415








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