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| re: Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Price (Posted on 11/19/12 at 10:59 pm to Tiger Authority)
Ok geez everyone jumping down me throat here. I'm 21 and in school. I'm not in business school or have I ever taken a business class. I'm had a poor choice of words in the OP. I started this thread to see if people have seen it and what they thought.
The Chinese factories were in the doc. They did look absolutely horrid and made American workers look like soiled little bitches. I have a new found respect for the Chinese factory worker
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RogerTheShrubber 
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| re: Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Price (Posted on 11/19/12 at 11:00 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!)
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Hatred of Walmart is rooted in hatred of Capitalism itself.
They must really hate poor people, but they actually think they are just hating on rich people.
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Tiger Authority
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| re: Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Price (Posted on 11/19/12 at 11:01 pm to Patton)
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Ok geez everyone jumping down me throat here. I'm 21 and in school. I'm not in business school or have I ever taken a business class. I'm had a poor choice of words in the OP. I started this thread to see if people have seen it and what they thought.
The Chinese factories were in the doc. They did look absolutely horrid and made American workers look like soiled little bitches. I have a new found respect for the Chinese factory worker
My bad for that. No bull shite. 
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ClydeFrog 
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| re: Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Price (Posted on 11/19/12 at 11:02 pm to lordguill)
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that may have had an agenda.
That almost certainly had an agenda.
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RogerTheShrubber
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| re: Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Price (Posted on 11/19/12 at 11:02 pm to Patton)
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Ok geez everyone jumping down me throat here.
Relax... It's all good.
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Patton
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| re: Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Price (Posted on 11/19/12 at 11:05 pm to Tiger Authority)
It's all good. The doc made me sympathize with some Walmart workers.
Willie Stroker- I honestly have no clue about what your talking about I'm sadly uneducated on the subject which your are explaining to me and thus much is going over my head. But I'm sure your right
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Willie Stroker
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| re: Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Price (Posted on 11/19/12 at 11:05 pm to Patton)
Start reading columns by Thomas Sowell. He will make perfect sense to you. It should only take a few columns for your mind to click and get on the right track. You'll be able to go forward without training wheels. You'll have no need to post on message boards other than to take an opportunity to enlighten others.
Sowell is the opposite of the nonsense fed to you in that documentary.
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Robin Masters
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| re: Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Price (Posted on 11/19/12 at 11:06 pm to Patton)
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Ok geez everyone jumping down me throat here. I'm 21 and in school. I'm not in business school or have I ever taken a business class. I'm had a poor choice of words in the OP. I started this thread to see if people have seen it and what they thought. The Chinese factories were in the doc. They did look absolutely horrid and made American workers look like soiled little bitches. I have a new found respect for the Chinese factory worker
21 huh? Well it's about time to put on your big girl panties cause shits about to get real.
best of luck to you, I wouldn't want to be graduating college in this economy. Two words: marketable skill.
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Tiger Authority
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| re: Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Price (Posted on 11/19/12 at 11:07 pm to Patton)
Take a couple of econ classes.
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RogerTheShrubber
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| re: Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Price (Posted on 11/19/12 at 11:07 pm to Patton)
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It's all good. The doc made me sympathize with some Walmart workers.
I do as well, but I am not convinced their lives would be any better off if there was no Walmart.
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Patton
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| re: Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Price (Posted on 11/19/12 at 11:08 pm to Willie Stroker)
Brilliant
Will read some of his stuff. Real life is approaching quickly and I need to get out of the college/living off my parents mentality
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| re: Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Price (Posted on 11/19/12 at 11:08 pm to CherryGarciaMan)
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Wal Mart killed the small shops/stores in America.
Before places like Walmart, you would have to go to the farmer's market for produce, then the butcher, then the auto repair place, then the office supply store, then the computer games store, etc. That puts a lot of pollution into the air.
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Wal Mart does not negotiate with producers, and to make a deal-you fly to Bentonville-they don't fly to you.
They make producers make their products as cheap as possible. This usually includes less packaging which produces less trash an dwaste.
Environmentalists, who are usually liberals, should frickING LOVE Walmart.
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Patton
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| re: Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Price (Posted on 11/19/12 at 11:11 pm to Teddy Ruxpin)
Thank all for the education
Such wise sages of the poli board
This is why I try not to venture her often I usually end up feeling dumb 
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| re: Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Price (Posted on 11/19/12 at 11:13 pm to Patton)
8/10...Nice work
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Patton
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| re: Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Price (Posted on 11/19/12 at 11:14 pm to DumpsterFire)
I wish I was smart enough to troll like this
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RogerTheShrubber
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| re: Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Price (Posted on 11/19/12 at 11:15 pm to Patton)
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This is why I try not to venture her often I usually end up feeling dumb
We ain't nearly as bright as most of us think. Just opinionated
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| re: Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Price (Posted on 11/19/12 at 11:18 pm to DumpsterFire)
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8/10...Nice work
Not everything is the SEC rant.
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Willie Stroker
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| re: Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Price (Posted on 11/19/12 at 11:21 pm to Patton)
Patton,
Let's say that your labor is worth $1400 a month to an employer - the neighborhood hardware store. They are in business to specialize in providing hardware to the community - not to provide healthcare. If they were good enough to specialize in providing good healthcare plans, they would be in the business of providing healthcare plans. But before Obamacare, it made financial sense for them to provide it to you because they could claim a tax benefit. If they provided the same total compensation cost to you without the healthplan, they would not get the tax benefit. Neither would you. So out of both alternatives, it made more sense for businesses to provide it. After Obamacare, they now have to frick you with their healthplans that you don't get to choose. fricking you is now the law.
Typically, when a business shops around and negotiates prices for a healthplan to provide an employee, they have no cares about individual needs or individual preferences. They'll choose one for you and you may not have a choice. Take their plan or get another job. That limits your freedom. It limits your choice.
So with that $1,400 monthly labor cost to employ you, they will divide your pay stub into two columns. One will be their "benefits". This will include $300 for a healthcare plan that costs $400. When you look in the other column and see that "your share" is a mere $100, you will think it's a great deal. But it's not. You just got f'd in the A and were told to like it. Your labor still paid for a $400 per month healthplan, but you had no say in the matter.
Politicians know people are stupid. They know that when an employee looks at their pay stub, most will actually believe the employer paid benefits are actually a gift - some form of generosity. Most will not know that those are all part of the labor cost to hire you. If it is worth it to them to pay that total cost, wouldn't you rather have the cash value yourself?
Wouldn't you want to select your own plan? The choices are endless. But you can't now. It's done. Now you're subject to someone else's whims and someone else's notions about what good healthcare looks like for you and your family.
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| re: Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Price (Posted on 11/19/12 at 11:23 pm to Willie Stroker)
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Are you referring to the stores that unnecessarily gouged poor people with overpriced merch simply because poor people had no other alternative?
The reverence & love that "mom & pop" stores get is hilarious.
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| re: Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Price (Posted on 11/19/12 at 11:24 pm to Tiger Authority)
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Not everything is the SEC rant.
I know a troll when I see one.
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