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Patton 
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| re: Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Price (Posted on 11/19/12 at 10:45 pm to Tiger Authority)
All I'm saying is that a company that profitable should be able to provide better healthcare I really don't get how that's bad unless you're a Walton
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Robin Masters
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| re: Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Price (Posted on 11/19/12 at 10:47 pm to Patton)
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All I'm saying is that a company that profitable should be able to provide better healthcare I really don't get how that's bad unless you're a Walton
Why should they if the govt will do it for them?
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Tiger Authority 
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| re: Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Price (Posted on 11/19/12 at 10:48 pm to Patton)
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All I'm saying is that a company that profitable should be able to provide better healthcare I really don't get how that's bad unless you're a Walton
You don't get it.
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Patton
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| re: Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Price (Posted on 11/19/12 at 10:48 pm to Robin Masters)
That's the point. Walmart not paying for healthcare is costing me money. That's bullshite
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Patton
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| re: Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Price (Posted on 11/19/12 at 10:49 pm to Tiger Authority)
That could very well be true I'm not claiming to be an expert. Just wanted to see some reaction to this
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RogerTheShrubber
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| re: Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Price (Posted on 11/19/12 at 10:49 pm to Patton)
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That's the point. Walmart not paying for healthcare is costing me money. That's bullshite
 I don't think this can go an further.
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Willie Stroker
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| re: Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Price (Posted on 11/19/12 at 10:50 pm to Patton)
If their health plan is so offensive, why do you choose Walmart as the villain rather than our politicians who prefer making an individual's health the responsibility of a business rather than the responsibility of an individual?
Would Walmart still be a villain if individuals had the same tax benefit as businesses? If that were the case (and Obamacare had not been passed), the total compensation a business pays a worker could be used by workers to pay for their own healthcare with any healthplan they can afford. Under the current system, all businesses are obligated to treat workers as clueless dolts who don't recognize that the "employer share" on their pay stubs actually represents would have otherwise been cash compensation which they could have used to pursue their own healthplans. With healthpans being mobile, there would be no such thing as pre-existing conditions. There would have been no need for Obamacare.
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Tiger Authority
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| re: Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Price (Posted on 11/19/12 at 10:50 pm to Patton)
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That could very well be true I'm not claiming to be an expert. Just wanted to see some reaction to this
You are too easily influenced. Not trying to be paternal because I'm not old but how old are you?
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tylercsbn9 
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| re: Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Price (Posted on 11/19/12 at 10:51 pm to Tiger Authority)
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If you are a warm body, you can get a job at Wal-Mart. That's all it takes. And we're wondering why their benefits aren't competing with top companies that require more than a body to work at? Really?
Exactly. You apply the Walmart scale to any sort of unskilled business and you'll see the same results.
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JLSIX 
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| re: Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Price (Posted on 11/19/12 at 10:51 pm to Patton)
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Have you seen it? If there is an argument to be made defending walmarts practices I'd love to hear.
yes, it's called capitalism and choice. They aren't slaves.
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Robin Masters
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| re: Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Price (Posted on 11/19/12 at 10:52 pm to Patton)
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That's the point. Walmart not paying for healthcare is costing me money. That's bullshite
No, the govt paying for someone's welfare is costing you money. Some of those people just happens to work at Walmart.
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Waffle House 
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| re: Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Price (Posted on 11/19/12 at 10:53 pm to Patton)
You are talking about a company that has engineered every piece of the supply chain for maximum performance. They, above anyone else, know exactly what they have to pay employees to attract viable candidates and maintain low turnover. If the job market for their employees required them to provide more to retain workers, they would.
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50Mullets
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| re: Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Price (Posted on 11/19/12 at 10:53 pm to CherryGarciaMan)
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They provide an increasingly consumerist society cheaper prices than their competition, garnering a larger percentage of the pie.
Yeah, that's called capitalism. It's been the biggest boon the the standard of living of every nation that has tried it.
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Willie Stroker
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| re: Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Price (Posted on 11/19/12 at 10:53 pm to CherryGarciaMan)
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Wal Mart killed the small shops/stores in America.
Are you referring to the stores that unnecessarily gouged poor people with overpriced merch simply because poor people had no other alternative? Why do you hate the poors, you elitist prick? How did you get to be so out of touch? You probably voted for Romney.
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tylercsbn9
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| re: Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Price (Posted on 11/19/12 at 10:54 pm to Robin Masters)
I'd really love to see the OP's reaction to factories in china if they think Walmart is horrid.
Spoilers....I've been there many times and its a million times worse. I also worked at a place like Walmart as a kid.
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50Mullets
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| re: Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Price (Posted on 11/19/12 at 10:54 pm to Patton)
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Walmart not paying for healthcare is costing me money.
Don't you know that healthcare is free now. It doesn't cost anything.
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Tiger Authority
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| re: Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Price (Posted on 11/19/12 at 10:54 pm to Waffle House)
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You are talking about a company that has engineered every piece of the supply chain for maximum performance. They, above anyone else, know exactly what they have to pay employees to attract viable candidates and maintain low turnover. If the job market for their employees required them to provide more to retain workers, they would.
They're a monopsony for sure IMO.
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CherryGarciaMan
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| re: Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Price (Posted on 11/19/12 at 10:58 pm to 50Mullets)
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It's been the biggest boon the the standard of living of every nation that has tried it.
And the "boon" will soon go "bust".
Consumer-driven society which produces little will never work for long.
And, I have nothing against Wal Mart in particular. I just hate seeing so many dumb people in one place, so I avoid that place like the herpes virus.
People bitching about Wal Mart should just choose to shop elsewhere, end of story.
But, Wal Mart is acting scared-getting a judge to prevent strikes on Friday.
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HailHailtoMichigan! 
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| re: Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Price (Posted on 11/19/12 at 10:58 pm to RogerTheShrubber)
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Weird, there are small shops open all across the USA.
These people close their eyes to reality.
Hatred of Walmart is rooted in hatred of Capitalism itself.
The argument that Walmart is bad for business because it destroys competition is quite possible the stupidest argument ever conjured up by a human mind.
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Willie Stroker
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| re: Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Price (Posted on 11/19/12 at 10:58 pm to Patton)
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All I'm saying is that a company that profitable should be able to provide better healthcare I really don't get how that's bad unless you're a Walton
If it wasn't for greedy, self righteous politicians buying votes from the ignorant masses by legislating that the government knows better than the individual, your post would have been unnecessary. Employer provided healthcare is a shell game. It's your money because it's their labor cost for employing you. Why should they get to limit your choices ? Why should they be the ones to shop around? Don't you think you should be the one deciding what is in your best interest?
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