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tigertracts 
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| re: Our defensive secondary is not going to like watching game film tomorrow (Posted on 11/18/12 at 5:44 pm to redfish99)
Eric Reid has been one of the season's biggest disappointments. He has at times been a huge liability. He has certainly made some big plays in his career, but looks nothing like the first round draft pick he has been projected to be.
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RogerTheShrubber
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| re: Our defensive secondary is not going to like watching game film tomorrow (Posted on 11/18/12 at 5:56 pm to Elle a shoe)
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I think losing Ron Cooper is going to hurt us more each yesr.
I do too, as well as a couple of playmakers in Claiborne and TM. Secondary play has been very below average this year.
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deuce985
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| re: Our defensive secondary is not going to like watching game film tomorrow (Posted on 11/18/12 at 6:26 pm to lsueddie18)
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Mills and Collins have been running around looking lost, not just this Sat., but pretty much all season.
What the frick? Seriously? Please end yourself.
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BRUNNIN4
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| re: Our defensive secondary is not going to like watching game film tomorrow (Posted on 11/18/12 at 6:28 pm to deuce985)
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What the frick? Seriously? Please end yourself.
This thread isn't an overreaction or anything. 
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deuce985
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| re: Our defensive secondary is not going to like watching game film tomorrow (Posted on 11/18/12 at 6:29 pm to BRUNNIN4)
Seriously. Mills and Collins have played GREAT all year. One bad game and they're fricking freshman. Did he just magically forget all the INTs/pass defenses they've made? They'll likely gain All-Freshman accolades in the SEC...that's pretty damn good.
This post was edited on 11/18 at 6:30 pm
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DarkKingArthur
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| re: Our defensive secondary is not going to like watching game film tomorrow (Posted on 11/18/12 at 6:33 pm to deuce985)
Agree. We lead the SEC in interceptions. Have perspective.
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RogerTheShrubber
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| re: Our defensive secondary is not going to like watching game film tomorrow (Posted on 11/18/12 at 6:34 pm to deuce985)
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Seriously. Mills and Collins have played GREAT all year. One bad game and they're fricking freshman. Did he just magically forget all the INTs/pass defenses they've made? They'll likely gain All-Freshman accolades in the SEC...that's pretty damn good
Secondary isn't very good in general, and relied heavily on the defensive front to cover for it.
Younger guys shouldn't have been playing much anyway. Losing TM really hurt a lot.
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SabiDojo 
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| re: Our defensive secondary is not going to like watching game film tomorrow (Posted on 11/18/12 at 6:37 pm to DarkKingArthur)
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Agree. We lead the SEC in interceptions. Have perspective.
AND our defense is ranked #13 IN THE COUNTRY in pass defense. Let's call back the dogs, guys.
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Geauxtro
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| re: Our defensive secondary is not going to like watching game film tomorrow (Posted on 11/18/12 at 7:18 pm to Penrod)
I accept your explanation that they are playing well but something went really wrong last night so would you please help me understand what it was?
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dbbuilder79
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| re: Our defensive secondary is not going to like watching game film tomorrow (Posted on 11/18/12 at 8:08 pm to Geauxtro)
Chavis should have played a lot more 3 man fronts. I would have loved to see mingo lined up at the OLB position with Edwards, Montgomery, and Freak/Logan on the line. The 3 man front seemed to get much better penetration than our 4 man front.
Our DBs were getting worked, but they were not getting much help from the DLine. A number of the hitch and go plays were somewhat long developing and Wallace had a ton of time to scan the field.
Average DB play and average DLine play at the same time and on the same play.
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winntiger
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| re: Our defensive secondary is not going to like watching game film tomorrow (Posted on 11/18/12 at 8:17 pm to Elle a shoe)
You really think its all because of losing Ron Cooper? More along the line of losing TM, Claiborne, Taylor, and Brooks all in one year and having no proven depth to replace them.
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deuce985
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| re: Our defensive secondary is not going to like watching game film tomorrow (Posted on 11/18/12 at 10:17 pm to RogerTheShrubber)
Bull shite. I've seen countless times Collins/Mills having perfect technique on deep balls when the front four failed to get pressure. And let's be realistic, this front four hasn't generated pressure close to what we thought they would this year. They're good but not what they should be. If anything, this young secondary is playing better than anyone expected...
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BRAVEHEART
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| re: Our defensive secondary is not going to like watching game film tomorrow (Posted on 11/19/12 at 12:22 am to Dpizz450)
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We did get a new DB coach this year...
The new DB coach is not as good at coaching/teaching/adjustments as the old DB coach. I hear he's a "great recruiter" though, and an ex-LSU player to boot. That's it Les, hire those great recruiters and let all the great talent run around lost.
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Wazoo
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| re: Our defensive secondary is not going to like watching game film tomorrow (Posted on 11/19/12 at 12:27 am to lsueddie18)
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Mills and Collins have been running around looking lost, not just this Sat., but pretty much all season. They are playing as if they are not getting any coaching, or if so, they're not listening. They are freshman and really athletically gifted, but it seems this is all they have to work with. The bad angles from the safeties...What the hell is going on with these guys? This is by far LSUs biggest weakness right now, and every team in the country knows it. LSU(DBU) let a very average SEC qb throw for nearly 400 yds on our home field. Unacceptable.
Mills and Collins were not the problem on Saturday. Simon was getting beat like a drum and Reid played terrible. All those deep passes, even the ones that weren't completed were on Simon.
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RogerTheShrubber
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| re: Our defensive secondary is not going to like watching game film tomorrow (Posted on 11/19/12 at 12:34 am to deuce985)
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Bull shite. I've seen countless times Collins/Mills having perfect technique on deep balls when the front four failed to get pressure.
I've seen countless times they haven;t. LSU misses Claiborne and TM. Go back and watch the games again and you will see the secondary play just isn't consistent.
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nvcowboyfan
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| re: Our defensive secondary is not going to like watching game film tomorrow (Posted on 11/19/12 at 1:58 am to RogerTheShrubber)
Our lack of QB pressure at times makes the secondary look bad. Why we couldn't get more pressure on ole piss was frustrating. Our front four haven't lived up to all their hype.
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Wazoo
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| re: Our defensive secondary is not going to like watching game film tomorrow (Posted on 11/19/12 at 1:59 am to nvcowboyfan)
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Our lack of QB pressure at times makes the secondary look bad. Why we couldn't get more pressure on ole piss was frustrating. Our front four haven't lived up to all their hype.
This is also a problem. The last two defensive series when we really looked good we got pressure on the QB.
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Elleshoe 
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| re: Our defensive secondary is not going to like watching game film tomorrow (Posted on 11/19/12 at 2:09 am to RogerTheShrubber)
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Secondary play has been very below average this year.
lolwut?
6 in the country in INTs
13th in pass defense
5th in total defense
I love with our fans spout off mindless bullshite
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dukke v
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| re: Our defensive secondary is not going to like watching game film tomorrow (Posted on 11/19/12 at 2:18 am to Elleshoe)
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6 in the country in INTs
13th in pass defense
5th in total defense
I love with our fans spout off mindless bullshite
Those are nice #'s. But they need to play better friday or Wilson will shred us.
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Wazoo
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| re: Our defensive secondary is not going to like watching game film tomorrow (Posted on 11/19/12 at 2:19 am to Elleshoe)
They have played bad at inopportune times.
This post was edited on 11/19 at 2:21 am
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