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NimbleCat 
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| re: Is it wrong of me to root against Israel? (Posted on 11/17/12 at 12:35 pm to Porky)
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This is true, so why in the world would anyone want to live over there?
All the good spots are already taken, and too well defended. 
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| re: Is it wrong of me to root against Israel? (Posted on 11/17/12 at 12:37 pm to NimbleCat)
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So, if Israel cannot base a claim on their land based on being there 3,000 years ago...how does the USA claim all of the land it holds? USA circa 1789.
 Crazy...isn't it?
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Porky
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| re: Is it wrong of me to root against Israel? (Posted on 11/17/12 at 12:40 pm to NimbleCat)
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All the good spots are already taken, and too well defended.
Thay ALL need to be forced to play (American) football and maybe they could find a more appropriate way to deal with their aggressive tendencies. Could you imagine the Finebaum show equivalent?
Seriously, IMO, life is much too important for all their bull shite.
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Fat Bastard 
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| re: Is it wrong of me to root against Israel? (Posted on 11/17/12 at 1:29 pm to Jahel)
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Why would Goat herders feel the need to lash out? It's our involvement in the region, you have to know that.
and you are a complete ignoramus who knows nothing about islam or their goals. read a book and do some studying. plenty of this is common sense.
1. Did Jihadist terrorists kill 200 Australian terrorists in Bali, Indonesia because of US foreign policy?
2. Did Jihadist terrorists kill 300 Russian schoolchildren at Belsan, Russia because of US foreign policy?
3. Are Jihadist terrorists trying to seize the island of Mindanoa in the Philippines today because of US foreign policy?
4. Have Jihadist terrorists killed over 2000 Thais in the southern Thailand over the past 4 years because of US foreign policy?
5. Are Jihadists slaughtering Christians in Nigeria because of US foreign policy?
6. Are Jihadist insurgents waging a war in Algeria because of US foreign policy?
7. Did Jihadist terrorists set off bombs in subways in Madrid, London, Paris and Moscow because of US foreign policy?
8. How about the jihadis who killed people in mumbai, India? Was that because of US foreign policy?
AND....THOSE GOATHERDERS WOULD NOT EVEN HAVE OIL IF IT WAS NOT FOR US AND THE BRITS SHOWING THEM HOW TO DRILL. OH THE HORROR.
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OLDBEACHCOMBER
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| re: Is it wrong of me to root against Israel? (Posted on 11/17/12 at 2:08 pm to shuke33)
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My ancestors didnt come from that holy land. Why should I care?
If you are not a card carring Muslem you should fear them and support Isreal. Thousands of Muslem leaders in the last years have called for the death of all non Muslems. Bin Laden called for all american men to be killed starting with Christian men.
Your question scares me, does no one pay any attention to what they say?
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| re: Is it wrong of me to root against Israel? (Posted on 11/17/12 at 2:12 pm to OLDBEACHCOMBER)
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If you are not a card carring Muslem you should fear them and support Isreal.
what a load of crap, Israel is no ally of the US and every Moslem is not an eneny,
Your stupidity should scare people.
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| re: Is it wrong of me to root against Israel? (Posted on 11/17/12 at 5:18 pm to Jahel)
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what did the Palestinians do that they deserved to have their land taken from them by the Western World?....Not have big enough guns?
Maybe they could ask the indigenous populations of North America, South America, Australia and New Zealand? What did the Jews do to have the Roman Emporer Hadrian rename Judea Palestine?
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| re: Is it wrong of me to root against Israel? (Posted on 11/17/12 at 9:23 pm to LSURussian)
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Israel will not lose. If they find themselves in a corner about to be destroyed, they will use their nukes. I am not "rooting" for that......
This is why everyone should be concerned.
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PurpleandGold Motown 
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| re: Is it wrong of me to root against Israel? (Posted on 11/17/12 at 9:56 pm to Navytiger74)
It's better for the world if Israel gets wiped off the map. Israels very encourages Arabs and Persians to put aside their differences to fight a common enemy. Remove that enemy, they go back to fighting each other. Everyone profits...except the Jews. Actually, they probably figure out a way to profit.
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| re: Is it wrong of me to root against Israel? (Posted on 11/17/12 at 10:04 pm to shuke33)
Israel is God's chosen, do you really think they will lose?
I am with Israel rain or shin, even if my country turns it's back on her. God will let loose his sword one day and woo unto them that are against Israel.
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JEAUXBLEAUX
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| re: Is it wrong of me to root against Israel? (Posted on 11/17/12 at 10:44 pm to tigger1)
Israel cannot lose. If Israel loses there will be no more Israel.
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| re: Is it wrong of me to root against Israel? (Posted on 11/17/12 at 11:04 pm to JEAUXBLEAUX)
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Israel cannot lose. If Israel loses there will be no more Israel
nor can Israel back down from a fight like obama does, any show of weakness brings more of the crazies
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CarrolltonTiger
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| re: Is it wrong of me to root against Israel? (Posted on 11/17/12 at 11:09 pm to JEAUXBLEAUX)
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Israel cannot lose.
Israel won't win, the occupation will not last forever and the palestinains aren't going away. Israel is in a box and the US is keeping them there. Three generations of terrorists and supporters created by the unjust occupation. Israel can't kill them all and the more they kill the more hate they create.
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If Israel loses there will be no more Israel.
Israel can go back to its 67 borders and rejoin civilized nations,
The only thing that really bothers me is how damage Israel does to the US.
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NimbleCat
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| re: Is it wrong of me to root against Israel? (Posted on 11/17/12 at 11:30 pm to NimbleCat)
I am starting to wonder if the Poli Board has some cab drivers and/or Circle K workers.
How anyone can support a terrorist group over Israel baffles me.
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trackfan
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| re: Is it wrong of me to root against Israel? (Posted on 11/18/12 at 12:28 am to NimbleCat)
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How anyone can support a terrorist group over Israel baffles me.
Here are a few reason:
1) The phrase "terrorist group" has no meaning in contemporary American vernacular because it is used so arbitrarily.
2) Most people don't expect people who are under foreign military occupation to abide by the Marquis in Queensbury rules to resist their occupiers.
3) The founding fathers of the state of Israel are also the fathers of modern-day terrorism whose hands were drenched in blood.
4) The current Israeli government routinely engages in domestic and international terror.
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trackfan
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| re: Is it wrong of me to root against Israel? (Posted on 11/18/12 at 12:40 am to CarrolltonTiger)
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Israel won't win, the occupation will not last forever and the palestinains aren't going away. Israel is in a box and the US is keeping them there. Three generations of terrorists and supporters created by the unjust occupation. Israel can't kill them all and the more they kill the more hate they create.
Israel is faced with the same problem that the Republican party is facing - DEMOGRAPHICS. I wish the Palestinians would quit begging for a state and start demanding citizenship already. That would be AIPAC's worst nightmare and it would tie the Obama administration into knots trying to defend the "Mideast's only democracy".
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SammyTiger
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| re: Is it wrong of me to root against Israel? (Posted on 11/18/12 at 12:51 am to trackfan)
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Israel can go back to its 67 borders and rejoin civilized nations,
The only thing that really bothers me is how damage Israel does to the US
What guarantee does Israel have that going back to the 1967 Border will satisfy a group that is willing to attack civilians?
What happens when the first terrorist attack comes from a new Palestinian nation?
You say it wont happen but there is a reason the occupation started int eh first place. It wasn't because Palestine was a peaceful neighbor.
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trackfan
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| re: Is it wrong of me to root against Israel? (Posted on 11/18/12 at 1:04 am to SammyTiger)
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What guarantee does Israel have that going back to the 1967 Border will satisfy a group that is willing to attack civilians?
Every Arab state, Iran, Hezbollah and Hamas have all agreed to the 2002 Saudi peace plan.
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You say it wont happen but there is a reason the occupation started int eh first place. It wasn't because Palestine was a peaceful neighbor.
It happened because Arabs were unjustly forced to pay the price for German crimes after WWII. The unvieling of the 2002 Saudi peace was really a de facto surrender and acceptance of Israel's right to exist by the Arab world. Even Bill Clinton has recently said that the bigest obstacle to Mideast peace is Netanyahu.
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Poodlebrain
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| re: Is it wrong of me to root against Israel? (Posted on 11/18/12 at 1:22 am to CarrolltonTiger)
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Israel can go back to its 67 borders and rejoin civilized nations,
Israel is at its 1967 borders. Did Israel fight a war of aggression in 1967? No. Did Israel occupy territory it captured from the agressors in 1967? Yes. Has there been a peace agreement reached with regard to the territory Israel occupied in 1967? Yes and no. Israel made peace with Egypt and returned the Sinai to Egypt. For whatever reasons, Egypt did not want the Gaza Strip returned to it, and it remained under Israeli occupation. Under international law Israel could have annexed Gaza when Egypt renounced its claim to the territory if they truly wanted the land as you claim, but they don't want the land.
Same for the West Bank except it was Jordan who wanted nothing more to do with the Palestinians.
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Fat Bastard
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| re: Is it wrong of me to root against Israel? (Posted on 11/18/12 at 10:48 am to trackfan)
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1) The phrase "terrorist group" has no meaning in contemporary American vernacular because it is used so arbitrarily.
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2) Most people don't expect people who are under foreign military occupation to abide by the Marquis in Queensbury rules to resist their occupiers
ahhh so it is just self defense all these years only against military right? When did israel go back and occupy gaza? So HAMAS is only attacking because israel went in again? I am sure the last time they did that along with southern Lebanon it was just for fun and empirical purposes right??
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3) The founding fathers of the state of Israel are also the fathers of modern-day terrorism whose hands were drenched in blood.
4) The current Israeli government routinely engages in domestic and international terror.
yep. they killed all arabs in israel. 90% of terrorists are jews.NOT MUSLIMS!
All the current conflicts worldwide involving jihadis are actually JEWS!!! in Libya, India, Thailand, Philippines, Nigeria, Sudan, Somalia, Europe, Etc,
now i know you have had your arse handed to you in past debates here on foreign issues.....but one more time.
There is a great deal of ignorance in America and the West with regard to HAMAS. Note that all of the combat in the current conflict is around Gaza. All of the rockets have been coming from Gaza.
Gaza is controlled by HAMAS.
HAMAS is NOT a Palestinian nationalist movement. They are a Jihadist movement. They were formed by the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt as the Muslim Brotherhood wing in Israel.
Their goal is the establishment of an Islamic state ruled by Shariah law.
Their charter calls for the destruction of Israel.
HAMAS is not fighting to get some olive farms back. HAMAS is fighting as part of the global jihadist movement. They are supported by Iran and by wealthy Sauds, Qataris and other Muslims around the world.
HAMAS is not seeking a "two-state solution." HAMAS is seeking to replace Israel with an Islamic state along the lines of Taliban Afghanistan. There is NOTHING good that can come out of any state ruled by HAMAS under any circumstances. HAMAS is an enemy of the entire Western civilization.
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