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asurob1 
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in forms of democracy it is that case,
but do you believe there is any truth or do we just have opinions?
and those who have the majority win out.
The truth always comes from the perspective of the viewer. What might be true to you certainly won't be true to me (or might be).
History is always written by the victors never the losers.
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asurob1
Arizona State Fan
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| re: Is Abortion Murder? (Posted on 11/17/12 at 12:15 pm to BeeFense5)
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Great, so you agree that gay marriage should be illegal since the majority of the country feels this way.
Of course you don't because you will fire back with some type of hypocritical bull shite spin.
I couldn't live with myself if I had to play mental gymnastics to justify the killing of innocent lives out of convenience.
of course. It's the law of the land.
Currently, the majority is against gay marriage.
Except in the states where it's now the law.
Your side of that argument is slowly but surely failing.
feel better about yourself now?
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asurob1
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| re: Is Abortion Murder? (Posted on 11/17/12 at 12:16 pm to kingbob)
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If this were the case, then abortion would be illegal. When Roe v Wade occurred (which made all bans on abortion illegal), more than 70% of people were anti-abortion. They had voted to make abortion illegal in almost every state. The Supreme Court overturned that. Why do you hate democracy so?
that's the cool part about our democracy. Sometimes the legislative process fails the people and we have a judicial branch to correct these errors.
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asurob1
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| re: Is Abortion Murder? (Posted on 11/17/12 at 12:18 pm to Keltic Tiger)
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I have never said yours are wrong. Why do you keep insisting ours are by repeatedly telling us your are right and, consequently, ours are wrong?
Simply. CTF is a young guy. And like all young guys he thinks he is smarter then the rest of us based on his "vast" world experience.
A few years from now he is going to be shocked just how different his views are then when he actually gets some of that life experience under his belt.
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LSUconvert 
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| re: Is Abortion Murder? (Posted on 11/17/12 at 12:21 pm to bomber77)
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unborn human child
Actually it's just a bunch of cells that will eventually make a child. You don't seem this concerned about skin cells you scratch off.
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bomber77 
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| re: Is Abortion Murder? (Posted on 11/17/12 at 12:24 pm to LSUconvert)
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Actually it's just a bunch of cells that will eventually make a child. You don't seem this concerned about skin cells you scratch off.
Man this is a terrible example. 
My skin cells are not going to become a human child.
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Actually it's just a bunch of cells that will eventually make a child.
When does it become a child to you?
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LSUconvert
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Never mind!
This post was edited on 11/17 at 12:26 pm
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LSUconvert
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| re: Is Abortion Murder? (Posted on 11/17/12 at 12:31 pm to bomber77)
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My skin cells are not going to become a human child.
Not sure if serious. I guess they wont become a human child, they already were a human adult.
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When does it become a child to you?
There's a lot of science involved that I do not know enough about to accurately explain to you my answer to this question.
Though I would like to know your answer, if you have one.
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catholictigerfan
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| re: Is Abortion Murder? (Posted on 11/17/12 at 2:05 pm to asurob1)
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What might be true to you certainly won't be true to me (or might be).
so why are you correct and I'm wrong?
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catholictigerfan
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| re: Is Abortion Murder? (Posted on 11/17/12 at 2:08 pm to asurob1)
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Simply. CTF is a young guy. And like all young guys he thinks he is smarter then the rest of us based on his "vast" world experience.
A few years from now he is going to be shocked just how different his views are then when he actually gets some of that life experience under his belt.
so you have no respect because I'm young ok I got it.
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asurob1
Arizona State Fan
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so why are you correct and I'm wrong?
Because I am not trying to impose my religious dogma on someone who isn't interested.
Because I am not trying to impose my morals on someone who isn't interested.
Because I believe people should have a choice to do whatever they hell they want with their bodies and their lives.
You on the other hand attempt to do these things every chance you get.
Your America would be very similar to Saudi Arabia where women need permission to do anything.
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asurob1
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so you have no respect because I'm young ok I got it.
pretty much.
My son has lots of opinions too.
He knows everything.
Ask him.
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catholictigerfan
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| re: Is Abortion Murder? (Posted on 11/17/12 at 2:33 pm to asurob1)
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Because I am not trying to impose my religious dogma on someone who isn't interested.
but your trying to impose your non religious believe on me.
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Your America would be very similar to Saudi Arabia where women need permission to do anything.
if you have no respect for me I guess this discussion is pointless.
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thetempleowl
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but your trying to impose your non religious believe on me.
No. He is not. Is he forcing you to get an abortion? He is saying you can not impose your religious beliefs on him.
Are you unable to see the difference? I mean really, do you not understand this basic idea?
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CollegeFBRules
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| re: Is Abortion Murder? (Posted on 11/17/12 at 4:37 pm to asurob1)
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Because I am not trying to impose my morals on someone who isn't interested.
Did you support Obamacare?
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catholictigerfan
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| re: Is Abortion Murder? (Posted on 11/17/12 at 7:33 pm to thetempleowl)
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No. He is not. Is he forcing you to get an abortion? He is saying you can not impose your religious beliefs on him.
Are you unable to see the difference? I mean really, do you not understand this basic idea?
so because I'm religious and going to force a women to do something I'm imposing my view, but because he isn't religious he isn't imposing his views.
plus I think these imposing views is just a cop out you drop that line to avoid an argument. Just like ASUrob's its your opinion.
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Bloodworth 
New Orleans Saints Fan
North Ga
Member since Oct 2007
1415 posts
| re: Is Abortion Murder? (Posted on 11/17/12 at 7:48 pm to asurob1)
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pretty much.
My son has lots of opinions too.
He knows everything.
Ask him.
Hopefully your son has more sense than you ASUROB1. Unless you are only posting in this stream to jerk peoples chains, you are clearly an idiot.
You are the kind of person that will argue the sky is not blue even when you are clearly wrong and unable to defend your point of view.
Why do you disgrace Ronald Reagan by having his picture under your name? Why do you call yourself a Republican yet so vehemently defend surgery to perform the unnatural task of abortion?
Im sure you will come up with some sarcastic pseudo intellectual response. Do us all a favor and stay the hell away from impressionable kids.
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ElroyJetSon
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| re: Is Abortion Murder? (Posted on 11/17/12 at 7:56 pm to MrTide33)
I wish you would have aborted this thread.
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thetempleowl
Temple Fan
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Member since Jul 2008
9906 posts
| re: Is Abortion Murder? (Posted on 11/17/12 at 8:15 pm to CollegeFBRules)
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Did you support Obamacare?
Is that forcing you to get healthcare?
It is in essence an additional tax. Not the same situation.
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thetempleowl
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so because I'm religious and going to force a women to do something I'm imposing my view
Dude, you realize that you said...
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force a women to do something
So, yeah, you are. Just read what you said and think.
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he isn't religious he isn't imposing his views.
No, he isn't imposing his views because he is leaving the decision up to the person.
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plus I think these imposing views is just a cop out you drop that line to avoid an argument. Just like ASUrob's its your opinion.
Dude, you say you are going to force a woman to do something. That is basically imposing your will/morals/whatever.
It is not an opinion. Do you seriously not see this? So, you think it is ok to force woman to do something?
It is not a cop out. I do not avoid arguments. But you are just stating foolishness here.
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thetempleowl
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dallas, tx
Member since Jul 2008
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| re: Is Abortion Murder? (Posted on 11/17/12 at 8:22 pm to Bloodworth)
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Bloodworth
Really? Great post.
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