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kingbob
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re: Is Abortion Murder?


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Based on what?


Because it is the killing of an innocent life. There are always other options. If you think killing a child is less cruel than that child growing up poor or in an orphanage, then I just can't say I understand or share that point of view.






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asurob1
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I see him with every sunrise and sunset. I see him in my kids. He is everywhere....open your eyes and your heart.

Why so bitter.

If you need physical proof...how do you explain the existence of matter? Did everything we see simply materialize out of nothing? Please explain how anything comes into existence without a Creator? Now I'm waiting.



let me guess the earth is just six thousand years old.

all that evolution stuff and science poppycock!

and for god's sake lets get the science books out of schools...






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asurob1
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re: Is Abortion Murder?


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Because it is the killing of an innocent life. There are always other options. If you think killing a child is less cruel than that child growing up poor or in an orphanage, then I just can't say I understand or share that point of view.


No genius I think abortion is less cruel then the poor woman you want to bear the product of her rape...and then have her care for said product.

tell you what let's just start punching all women in the face.

The result is the same.







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kingbob
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re: Is Abortion Murder?


You do realize that it is possible to
A. believe in God
B. be deeply religious
C. support the theory of the big bang, evolution, scientific thought, ect
D. believe that the Constitution's 10th Amendment says that all powers not specifically listed are given to the states, therefore making abortion a state issue
E. and still believe that killing an unborn baby is murder and shouldn't be legal

Just because someone doesn't agree with you doesn't mean they're ignorant. Just because someone believes in God doesn't mean they're unintelligent. Calling the murder of an innocent life abortion and making it legal doesn't make it right.






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OMLandshark
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re: Is Abortion Murder?


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I used inarticulate language (on purpose), but what I said was a fair description of a d&c. What's so offensive about the truth? I didn't describe a late-term abortion which really would have been offensive. The act is offensive.



Yeah, just in case you weren't aware, you're a complete dick, especially with Keltic posting that story and you go ahead and post that.






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kingbob
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So you want a woman who was brutalized in Rape AND not given Plan B as part of her rape kit (which is negligence on the part of the doctors, fyi) to also have to endure the emotionally crippling pain of murdering her own child? What kind of monster are you? If she doesn't want the child, she can always give it up for adoption. If she can't afford the medical bills, there are many charities who would help her as well as a multitude of government programs willing to provide assistance. I don't understand why you want her to undergo an extra round of mental trauma, especially a self-inflicted one at that. That's just cruel.





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asurob1
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So you want a woman who was brutalized in Rape AND not given Plan B as part of her rape kit (which is negligence on the part of the doctors, fyi) to also have to endure the emotionally crippling pain of murdering her own child? What kind of monster are you? If she doesn't want the child, she can always give it up for adoption. If she can't afford the medical bills, there are many charities who would help her as well as a multitude of government programs willing to provide assistance. I don't understand why you want her to undergo an extra round of mental trauma, especially a self-inflicted one at that. That's just cruel.


YES! you are on to it.

Let's make her suffer through 9 months of a carrying a baby she didnt want and was given to her against her will. THEN to add to her trauma let's force her to the streets to beg some charity to give her the money just to meet the HOSPITAL BILLS she would not have had had her rapist not chosen her that day.

Because of course none of this will add to her emotional pain. NO SIREE

YOU SIR ARE A Genius!







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VOR
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re: Is Abortion Murder?


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Is Abortion Murder?


IDGAF






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MrTide33
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re: Is Abortion Murder?


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This is such a simple question. Either you believe it to be murder or you don't, how did this thread get to be 20+ pages? Cliff notes?


Lots of random little debates. Some philosophical questions on where life begins, what the definition of murder is, a little bit of when taking innocent life is ethical, I believe. And for the last, what, 6 pages or so, keltictiger brought up a horrible story of how his sister was brutally raped. OM landshark and asurob jumped in and for a little while I was one-on three, trying to reaffirm my beliefs while showing my sympathy and compassion towards keltic's sister and then being lambasted, especially by asurob and OMlandshark, often for things I did not say, and then a few more from the pro-life squad have come in and debated said guys.






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MrTide33
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IDGAF


So you don't care enough about what's right or wrong to try and make an opinion?






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MrTide33
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re: Is Abortion Murder?


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This will come as a shocker to most hardcore Christians, but America is not a theocracy
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NO! I've been wrong all this time...

Seriously, I know that. And I made no mention of theocracy, and the only time I mentioned God had nothing to do with abortion but whether or not God would plan rape. I've had this put on me numerous times, and yes, I am a Christian, and I'm not ashamed of that, but that does not hold an ounce of weight in my argument. God does not say "And life begins at..." I know everybody is not a Christian, which is why I do not oppose legalizing gay marriage or try to tell people not to be promiscous. My sole, raw purpose is to save, waht I believe, scientificall, to be innocent human life, and to protect innocent human life in all instances and circumstances






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catholictigerfan
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re: Is Abortion Murder?


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laws come when the majority of opinions line up in one direction or the other.

seems simple enough to me....did you skip civics?



in forms of democracy it is that case,

but do you believe there is any truth or do we just have opinions?

and those who have the majority win out.






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BeeFense5
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re: Is Abortion Murder?


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laws come when the majority of opinions line up in one direction or the other. seems simple enough to me....did you skip civics?


Great, so you agree that gay marriage should be illegal since the majority of the country feels this way.

Of course you don't because you will fire back with some type of hypocritical bull shite spin.

I couldn't live with myself if I had to play mental gymnastics to justify the killing of innocent lives out of convenience.






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kingbob
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re: Is Abortion Murder?


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laws come when the majority of opinions line up in one direction or the other. seems simple enough to me....did you skip civics?


If this were the case, then abortion would be illegal. When Roe v Wade occurred (which made all bans on abortion illegal), more than 70% of people were anti-abortion. They had voted to make abortion illegal in almost every state. The Supreme Court overturned that. Why do you hate democracy so?



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VOR
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re: Is Abortion Murder?


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So you don't care enough about what's right or wrong to try and make an opinion?


Not in this thread.






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Keltic Tiger
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re: Is Abortion Murder?


catholictiger, I have said several times that not only do I not have a problem with pro lifers' opinions, I fully agree that they, like everyone else, are entitled to them. My objection here & in the real world, is that you keep trying to force yours on us by telling us that we support murder/ers and/or that yours are the most righteous. I have never said yours are wrong. Why do you keep insisting ours are by repeatedly telling us your are right and, consequently, ours are wrong? I came here to defend my sister, and thru her, the 1000's of others like her. I am not here to convert anyone to anything. It's not my business. Why cann't you share those same feelings?





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thetempleowl
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re: Is Abortion Murder?


As has been stated previously, and I am of like mind, I respect your opinion if you are a pro lifer. I really do. Just don't go pushing your religious beliefs on me.

I have a couple points to bring to this discussion. First, I have known three different big time pro lifers over my lifetime. Interesting, they all got women pregnant and guess what? That's right, they got an abortion. Guess what? Right after that they went back to being prolife because they didn't want someone to make the same mistake they made.

Prolifers are often prolifers till they need to make a choice. Then they make the choice they don't want others to make. Then, independently, they all said don't make the same mistake I made to explain away their hypocrisy.

Second, a fetus could just as easily be referred to as a parasite early on as anything else. It needs the host to live and sucks energy from the host.

Third, if someone could legitimately come up with a law that could allow abortions for rape and when the mother's life is at risk, then many more people would be for it. However, that can not be done.

Whatever one wants to call abortion, it is here to stay. And sorry, I don't think many things like this should be states rights.

I love the fact that many crazy people want to make things like gay marriage and abortion states decisions. Just like the KKK wanted civil rights to fall under the auspices of the state.

I am sorry. But just because you live in a state where there are lots of other crazy, like minded people does not give you the right to discriminate, be racist, be bigoted, be sexist, or be something else along those lines. There are certain rights that this country believes all its citizens are permitted and it will not allow the states to decide upon those issues.

You know, I don't know why we even talk about cases of rape. Because everyone knows that in cases of legitimate rape, the woman's body can shut things down...






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catholictigerfan
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The reasn I do this is because I'm trying to defen the life of the unborn.

I understand how much this issue affects you, I'm just trying I argue my side






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Bloodworth
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re: Is Abortion Murder?


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I have a couple points to bring to this discussion. First, I have known three different big time pro lifers over my lifetime. Interesting, they all got women pregnant and guess what? That's right, they got an abortion. Guess what? Right after that they went back to being prolife because they didn't want someone to make the same mistake they made.


3? Some crowd you run with. Sounds to me like they are very irresponsible people who run from facing responsiblilty. Also, how did they decide? I thought they woman has the right to do what they want with their body?

You make your bed and you lay in it. Yea life throws you curve balls and you screw around and oops...pregnant. Well lets just go get an abortion and that way everything will be easy again. Stop being wimps and own up to your responsibility. Its harder to do the right thing and too many people choose to take the path of least resistance.

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Whatever one wants to call abortion, it is here to stay. And sorry, I don't think many things like this should be states rights.


Oh, ok... I get it... A court decision made it legal so give up your beliefs because its legal? People like you make me want this F'd up decision to legalize abortions overturned.

Stay up there in your Blue State where everything is right in your world.






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bomber77
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re: Is Abortion Murder?


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Is Abortion Murder?


It depends on ones definition of murder. There is no argument that its the killing of an unborn human child.

To me thats murder. Abortion supporters dont seem to think so though.

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If you believe it is in certain cases but not others


Its killing of an unborn child in every case.






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