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asurob1
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just go live your own lives.



They can't its far more important to them to tell you how to live yours.







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Keltic Tiger
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Such a simplistic comment: "the child has not done a damn thing to..............). Try putting yourself, or worse yet, your loved one, in this picture. You are sitting in a hospitial room, you've been repeatedly raped, tortured, mentally & physically used by a monster non stop for 2 days/nites. Your body is almost literally torn & hammered to pieces. Your mind violated in gross & perverse ways that will never leave your consciousness for all extents & purposes. Then your doctor, who you've known for over 20 yrs, walks up, your husband, mother, father, brother all by your side, and tells you in as humane a way as I've ever heard, that you are pregnant. You, of course, will immediately stop & think those thoughts you verbalize here so eloquently. And your complete focus will then be on that "child" & what will be done to it if you murder it.





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Ace Midnight
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Such a simplistic comment: "the child has not done a damn thing to..............).


I'm sorry if it's true and if the truth hurts.

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Try putting yourself, or worse yet, your loved one, in this picture. You are sitting in a hospitial room, you've been repeatedly raped, tortured, mentally & physically used by a monster non stop for 2 days/nites. Your body is almost literally torn & hammered to pieces. Your mind violated in gross & perverse ways that will never leave your consciousness for all extents & purposes. Then your doctor, who you've known for over 20 yrs, walks up, your husband, mother, father, brother all by your side, and tells you in as humane a way as I've ever heard, that you are pregnant. You, of course, will immediately stop & think those thoughts you verbalize here so eloquently. And your complete focus will then be on that "child" & what will be done to it if you murder it.


I am very, very, very, very, very thankful I have not had to experience that, at least not in a close way. Just as thankful as I am, I'm sorry your family has had to go through this. I do not believe your sister just mindlessly discarded the child and forgot about it. I'm sure it was an agonizing decision. It is probably a good thing that it was - it is a very significant choice to make under those circumstances.

If you (and your family) choose to believe that it wasn't a child, just a tumorous mass, parasite, an extension of the rapist, a mole, a cyst - however you and your family choose to think about "whatever it was", I truly hope it gives ya'll peace. This topic is so sensitive, it is not just pro-choice that use these euphemisms. When a child dies prior to being born, they call it "miscarriage" or "stillborn", because the death of an infant is so, so traumatic - this makes it easier for the mother.

Maybe the language should be tweaked more - "induced miscarriage"? Maybe that would make it better for everybody.

I'm absolutely not sitting in judgment. I'm just asking questions. If ya'll don't want to answer the questions? Fine. If ya'll don't like the questions or are hurt by them? I'm sorry. Not my intention.

I do not object to abortion on demand. But it is, in my opinion, a child - a separate human being. (All my efforts to "suppress women" in the past were simply to protect these little ones that are, for all practical purposes, unregarded, unseen, unheard with no voice, no vote, no option.) It is the common state that all of us shared at one point in our existence - perhaps the only state we all truly share.

May G-d continue to help your family through this.






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Bloodworth
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re: Is Abortion Murder?


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My DNA is not my body? Didnt part of me swim up to fertilize the egg at conception?


And your response:

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are you carrying said fertilized egg around for nine months?

You just answered your question.


Please forgive me because I have no idea what you are talking about when you say I just answered my own question.

Does it not take two people to reproduce? What is so hard to fathom about the Father having a dog in the fight when it comes to this "decision" to Abort? How is he not a player?

Show me a woman that can become pregnant without male sperm and then you can say its her body to do what she wants.

This topic has no meaning to you because you dont believe in God which makes the unnatural execution of an abortion simply a surgical task.

I base my belief that you dont believe in God on your comment earlier about "when you people become room temperture" and the surprise that awaits.

It has always been striking to me that abortion became legal since there is fair debate that Life begins at conception. Why mess with it?

Every living human started from what you call "tissue"....wether in the first day or 3rd trimester.







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asurob1
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Maybe the language should be tweaked more - "induced miscarriage"? Maybe that would make it better for everybody.


Ah yes, let's make it sound politically correct.






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asurob1
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Please forgive me because I have no idea what you are talking about when you say I just answered my own question.


if you can't carry that egg around freshly fertlized. Then it doesnt matter if the dna "was" a part of your body. it no longer is.

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Does it not take two people to reproduce? What is so hard to fathom about the Father having a dog in the fight when it comes to this "decision" to Abort? How is he not a player?


see above

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This topic has no meaning to you because you dont believe in God which makes the unnatural execution of an abortion simply a surgical task.


yup no bias in that word choice.

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I base my belief that you dont believe in God on your comment earlier about "when you people become room temperture" and the surprise that awaits.


yeah you are going to be so sad...because your version of god is rather different from about half the planet']s. Not everyone is going to win that race...more likely everyone is going to lose ;-).

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It has always been striking to me that abortion became legal since there is fair debate that Life begins at conception. Why mess with it?


that is your opinion. If your opinion was what everyone believed we would not be debating now would we?

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Every living human started from what you call "tissue"....wether in the first day or 3rd trimester.


yup. And most of us managed not to be aborted. It still doesnt mean we need to steal that choice from our mother's sisters or daughters. Impose your beliefs on me...any of them...is something me and many others will fight till our dying days.







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catholictigerfan
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asurob simple question for you. You seem to play this my own opinion card alot, but if all our opinion is are opinions then how do we have laws how do we have legislation, isn't legislation just an opinion and shouldn't be listened to? Isn't abortion being legal just an opinion and shouldn't be listened to. If all we have are opinions and they don't mean anything how can we have any laws how can we have any truth?


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catholictigerfan
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one last thing I will be tied up all night doing some stuff may not be able to respond till after the LSU game, so be patient with me, got lots to do.





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asurob1
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If all we have are opinions and they don't mean anything how can we have any laws how can we have any truth?



laws come when the majority of opinions line up in one direction or the other.

seems simple enough to me....did you skip civics?








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Bloodworth
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re: Is Abortion Murder?


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This topic has no meaning to you because you dont believe in God which makes the unnatural execution of an abortion simply a surgical task.


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yup no bias in that word choice.


You dont like the choice of words? Make you uncomfortable? Was there anything false in it?

The real issue here is that you are avoiding talking about this because you cannot deny its truth.

I cant help it, and forgive me for saying it. I feel sorry for you. You seem very confused.

I wonder why you would align yourself Republican when you know that the majority of Republicans are against legalized abortion. Including Ronald Reagan.

You are very interesting though. You should give God a try. You'd be surprised at how easier life becomes. God Bless.






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Rebel
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Is Abortion Murder?


how can it not be?







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kingbob
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This is such a simple question. Either you believe it to be murder or you don't, how did this thread get to be 20+ pages? Cliff notes?





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OMLandshark
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Instead of killing the innocent child (who had nothing to do with the circumstances of his/her conception), why not put the child up for adoption?



Who is going to want to adopt the kid of a crackhead who raped someone? I know I sure as hell wouldn't and find another mother. No one wants a type of kid with that genetic disposition.






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OMLandshark
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So back when we killed blacks it was alright because it was legal? To say the solution to this thread has to do with the current law is ridiculous. That's what I'm trying to change



This will come as a shocker to most hardcore Christians, but America is not a theocracy.






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OMLandshark
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Easier and neater to just cut the unborn child into small bits and vacuum it out with a shop vac. No fuss, no muss.



......This sentence is so fricking offensive I don't know where to start. I just wish people like you would be put on an island and socially isolated completely from the rest of us.






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asurob1
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You dont like the choice of words? Make you uncomfortable? Was there anything false in it?

The real issue here is that you are avoiding talking about this because you cannot deny its truth.


nope. I have long said, in case you weren't keeping up. Abortion ends potential life. Sorta like condoms or beating off does.

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You are very interesting though. You should give God a try. You'd be surprised at how easier life becomes. God Bless.



really? Are you going to convert me to God.

Tell you what.

Prove to me he exists.

I'm waiting.






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ApexTiger
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re: Is Abortion Murder?


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s Abortion Murder?
no

That was simple


How do you make such an easy simple call on that?

Based on what?






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Ace Midnight
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This sentence is so fricking offensive I don't know where to start.


I used inarticulate language (on purpose), but what I said was a fair description of a d&c. What's so offensive about the truth? I didn't describe a late-term abortion which really would have been offensive. The act is offensive.

This is the right ya'll come in here to defend. I have stated I have withdrawn all objection to it, so go ahead - knock yourselves out. I just want people to face the reality of what they're supporting.






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Bloodworth
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re: Is Abortion Murder?


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Are you going to convert me to God.

Tell you what.

Prove to me he exists.

I'm waiting.


I see him with every sunrise and sunset. I see him in my kids. He is everywhere....open your eyes and your heart.

Why so bitter.

If you need physical proof...how do you explain the existence of matter? Did everything we see simply materialize out of nothing? Please explain how anything comes into existence without a Creator? Now I'm waiting.






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brmark70816
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I don't know if this have been brought up or not, but don't rape kits include plan B or the morning after pill? So why is rape such a big component of the arguement?





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