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Because, for the millionth time, there was never any "either or". An extremist group used the chaos over the video as an opportunity to attack.


Nothing about Benghazi was related to the video. Cairo was, but Benghazi was not. It's a lie, spin, propoganda, obfuscation, misinformation, not factual, whatever. Benghazi had nothing to do with the film. Nothing. Whatsoever.






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Former CIA Director David Petraeus testified in a closed-door hearing Friday morning that his agency determined immediately after the Sept. 11 Libya attack that "Al Qaeda involvement" was suspected -- but the line was taken out in the final version circulated to administration officials, according to a top lawmaker who was briefed. Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y., who spoke to reporters after Petraeus testified before the House Intelligence Committee, indicated he and other lawmakers still have plenty of questions about the aftermath of the attack. "No one knows yet exactly who came up with the final version of the talking points," he said. Read more: LINK
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I'm sorry, I was referring to this.






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Ace Midnight
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Based upon what they said in the hearings yesterday, the attack was not that organized


Accurate mortar fire doesn't just happen. It absolutely doesn't just happen. Doesn't happen.



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Isn't there an interagency declassification review that must take place before before the info can be made public.

King said he thought it got reviewed by 6-7 agencies before they could release the info






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Because, for the millionth time, there was never any "either or". An extremist group used the chaos over the video as an opportunity to attack


Would be a great point had there been any chaos at all.
You can't take video from other countries and transfer them over boaders and use them as you seem fit.
Incredibly the simalrities to Watergate are easy to see.
Both thought they needed and edge to push them over the top for re-election.
Turns out neither needed help.
Both were caught.
Impeachmet for Nixon was avoided by resignation.
Obama will be impeached and avoid resignation by a Senate full of worshipers who can't stomach appearing wrong.






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Decatur
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That first attack created an opportunity for the second attack -- the one on the annex. Whether it was planned that way all along is not clear.

U.S. officials say the four-hour lull in the fighting gave the attackers time to bring in more firepower in the form of mortars. They fired five rounds: the first two missed, while the next three hit.


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SECSolomonGrundy
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Incredibly the simalrities to Watergate are easy to see.


grasp at straws much?






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The title of this thread is severely misleading given the content


It's the fault of a video.

GFO.






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Wolfhound45
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Accurate mortar fire doesn't just happen. It absolutely doesn't just happen. Doesn't happen.


WHAT?!? Are you SURE?!?

I am shocked, absolutely and utterly shocked!



Too many people on this board get their understanding of crew served weapons from movies or Call of Duty. They simply do not understand the amount of time and effort go into simply;

1 - MOVING an 82mm mortar and ammunition
2 - EMPLACING
3 - SIGHTING
4 - RANGING
5 - FIRING






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Ace Midnight
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1 - MOVING an 82mm mortar and ammunition
2 - EMPLACING
3 - SIGHTING
4 - RANGING
5 - FIRING


Brother, I love you, but....you forgot:

6 - ADJUSTING (they walked the fire on the target, something any 6 year old can do.)






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Wolfhound45
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6 - ADJUSTING (they walked the fire on the target, something any 6 year old can do.)




My bad. That is what you get for letting an 11B talk about the work an 11C does.



Just glad I never had to do that crap. Humping an M60 (old school, back in the day) was more than enough for me.

Decatur mentions they only had five rounds. Pretty good shooting if they managed to get a round on target by the third round. Changing charge and/or angle. Seems they may have done it once or twice. Just saying.






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ripper88
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Too many people on this board get their understanding of crew served weapons from movies or Call of Duty. They simply do not understand the amount of time and effort go into simply; 1 - MOVING an 82mm mortar and ammunition 2 - EMPLACING 3 - SIGHTING 4 - RANGING 5 - FIRING



Legit question: How complicated is it? i.e. 4 hours? pre-placed?






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Decatur
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Decatur mentions they only had five rounds. Pretty good shooting if they managed to get a round on target by the third round. Changing charge and/or angle. Seems they may have done it once or twice. Just saying.


I'm just going by the reporting

Wouldn't surprise me if some Libyans honed their skills during the civil war that ousted Gaddafi






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Wolfhound45
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Legit question: How complicated is it? i.e. 4 hours? pre-placed?


I have seen drill done in under five minutes. Problem is - where did the mortar come from if this was a spontaneous demonstration?

Even if there is four hours (which I would dispute), you don't have one just lying around.

Bottom line, four brave individuals gave their lives in service to our country. The truth of what happened needs to be told.






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Decatur

The General's testimony today pretty much discredits your thread from yesterday.....






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The truth of what happened needs to be told.


Too bad even on this esteemed and oft reported on site the spin machine is in full effect.






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Wolfhound45
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the spin machine is in full effect


You know it brother. And they are still dead.

RIP






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Decatur
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The General's testimony today pretty much discredits your thread from yesterday.....


I don't think so






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I finished it off by introducing him to my son E-2 who is a year older than he is, told him just cuz the knees go doesn't mean the dog can't hunt!


Or be a great Pointer.

Thank you and Wolfhound, my fellow dinosaurs, for your continual service especially with the asswipe we now have as your Commander-in-Chief.
My dad, who retired as a USAF Colonel and fought in WWII, would have been disgusted with this sorry sack of shite frick up that is in the White House and what he has done to our servicemen, from apologizing about the burning of those Korans used to pass information to this.






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Watergate = Files were stolen for an election, then a Pesident lied and covered up knowledge of the plan.


Yes, breaking multiple laws in the process.
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Benghazi= What's know so far. Ambassador Steven's
request more protection. None was given.
An attack kills Steven's and 3 others.
The Libayan President says it is "Poposterous to think attack was a Spontanieous Protest" before Susan Rice continued claims that was the case.
President Obama and Secretary Clinton issues an apology for a Youtube video insulting Muslims.
Arrest made on the person responsible for making video. Chaged with using a aliases while on probation.
President later claims he identified attack as "Terrorist attack.
Ground forces claim they were ordered 3 times to "Stand Down" after they requested permission to take action to save the American Citizens under attack.
Clinton refuses to testify due to more pressing issues than a death of an American Ambassador, in Austria.
Sudden release of information on Petraeus, taking him from American Hero to discredited,untrust worthy, ax grinder.

It stinks but its unclear to me if any law was broken.






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