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Wolfhound45  LSU Fan WhereverTheArmySendsUs Member since Nov 2009 7404 posts
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| re: Petraeus - CIA Talking points altered by administration (Posted on 11/16/12 at 11:35 am to EZE Tiger Fan)
extremist groups STAAAACKED... we ... well, you know
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SECSolomonGrundy Slaughter Swamp Member since Jun 2012 1411 posts

| re: Petraeus - CIA Talking points altered by administration (Posted on 11/16/12 at 11:37 am to Wolfhound45)
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Because extremist groups walk around with 82mm mortars and RPG-7s in their back pockets all the time.
yeah bro. you ever been to the middle east? we're not talking about PETA or the KKK
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Decatur  LSU Fan Member since Mar 2007 14877 posts
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| re: Petraeus - CIA Talking points altered by administration (Posted on 11/16/12 at 11:38 am to ripper88)
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But there was also intel pointed to organized terrorist.
Based upon what they said in the hearings yesterday, the attack was not that organized
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TenTex  LSU Fan Member since Jan 2008 13971 posts

| re: Petraeus - CIA Talking points altered by administration (Posted on 11/16/12 at 11:39 am to jonboy)
The GOP digging a deeper hole.....will they ever learn?
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a want  LSU Fan Silicone Holler Member since Oct 2010 6909 posts

| re: Petraeus - CIA Talking points altered by administration (Posted on 11/16/12 at 11:39 am to themunch)
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watergate level no its not.... its much worse imo
The echo chamber is strong with this one.
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themunch  LSU Fan USA Member since Jan 2007 5475 posts
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| re: Petraeus - CIA Talking points altered by administration (Posted on 11/16/12 at 11:41 am to a want)
Watergate was snooping for info... These folks let people die.... echo my arse
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ripper88  LSU Fan louisiana Member since Oct 2007 249 posts

| re: Petraeus - CIA Talking points altered by administration (Posted on 11/16/12 at 11:44 am to Decatur)
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Based upon what they said in the hearings yesterday, the attack was not that organized
The testimony was that the report said AQ might have been involved but it was taken out. I would assume that this theory was still conveyed to the decision makers. Yet they still went w/ video story.
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a want  LSU Fan Silicone Holler Member since Oct 2010 6909 posts

| re: Petraeus - CIA Talking points altered by administration (Posted on 11/16/12 at 11:45 am to themunch)
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These folks let people die....
People usually die in terrorist attacks. They happen in every administration. You guys are so desperate.
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Decatur  LSU Fan Member since Mar 2007 14877 posts
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| re: Petraeus - CIA Talking points altered by administration (Posted on 11/16/12 at 11:47 am to ripper88)
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The senior intelligence official said the analysts’ judgment was based in part on monitoring of some of the Benghazi attackers, which showed they had been watching the Cairo protests live on television and talking about them before they assaulted the consulate. “We believe the timing of the attack was influenced by events in Cairo,” the senior official said, reaffirming the Cairo-Benghazi link. He said that judgment is repeated in a new report prepared this week for the House intelligence committee. Here’s how the senior official described the jumble of events in Benghazi that day: “The attackers were disorganized; some seemed more interested in looting. Some who claimed to have participated joined the attack as it began or after it was under way. There is no evidence of rehearsals, they never got into the safe room . . . never took any hostages, didn’t bring explosives to blow the safe room door, and didn’t use a car bomb to blow the gates.” he Benghazi flap is the sort of situation that intelligence officers dread: when politicians are demanding hard “yes” or “no” answers but evidence is fragmentary and conflicting. The political debate has focused on whether the attack was spontaneous or planned, but the official said there’s evidence of both, and that different attackers may have had different motives. There’s no dispute, however, that it was “an act of terror,” as Obama described it the next day. “It was a flash mob with weapons,” is how the senior official described the attackers. The mob included members of the Ansar al-Sharia militia, about four members of al-Qaeda in the Maghreb, and members of the Egypt-based Muhammad Jamal network, along with other unarmed looters. The official said the only major change he would make now in the CIA’s Sept. 15 talking points would be to drop the word “spontaneous” and substitute “opportunistic.” He explained that there apparently was “some pre-coordination but minimal planning.”
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L.A.  New Orleans Saints Fan Los Angeles Member since Aug 2003 34600 posts

| re: Petraeus - CIA Talking points altered by administration (Posted on 11/16/12 at 11:49 am to Decatur)
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that Petraeus did not realize the significance of it at the time
This is the part that's BS. It's CYA time.
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Wolfhound45  LSU Fan WhereverTheArmySendsUs Member since Nov 2009 7404 posts
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| re: Petraeus - CIA Talking points altered by administration (Posted on 11/16/12 at 11:49 am to SECSolomonGrundy)
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yeah bro. you ever been to the middle east?
The fact that I know the difference between and 82mm and an 81mm mortar should have clued you in. And maybe the location where I am posting from. So yeah, I have been to Southwest Asia and the Middle East maybe once or twice in my thirty years (and counting). 
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TemplarTheSaint  LSU Fan The Vatican Member since Oct 2011 611 posts

| re: Petraeus - CIA Talking points altered by administration (Posted on 11/16/12 at 11:51 am to ripper88)
I don't think Obama was/remains interested in covering up a terrorist act - He is interested in covering up the details of the ambassador's mission and the CIA's mission in Benghazi. Why else would they stay in a knowingly dangerous location, with inadeqaute security, and why would Washington go to such great lengths to create such a smoke stream after the invasion and murders? Something ugly was going on in Benghazi.
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jr33  LSU Fan Member since Jan 2010 903 posts

| re: Petraeus - CIA Talking points altered by administration (Posted on 11/16/12 at 11:52 am to Ace Midnight)
This is no different than the jobs report shooting through the roof a week after the election, the last two job reports were lies before the election, the welfare going up 400k report held till friday after election, this Benghazi thing is bigger than Watergate and if this goes away without punishment then this country is screwed for sure, this is a slam dunk of cover up and not one democrat is outraged wtf is wrong with these people, is there not one democrat who will stand for right and wrong....just ONE
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Jbird  Iowa Fan Odramaville with EthanL Member since Oct 2012 4864 posts

| re: Petraeus - CIA Talking points altered by administration (Posted on 11/16/12 at 11:52 am to Wolfhound45)
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So yeah, I have been to Southwest Asia and the Middle East maybe once or twice in my thirty years (and counting).
LOL I was waiting for your reply! I did the math with a young trooper the other day (beer bet) I have more time in the Middle East then he has in the service, mmmm...free beer is tasty! He was amazed a Desert Storm guy was still roaming the hallways??? 
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themunch  LSU Fan USA Member since Jan 2007 5475 posts
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| re: Petraeus - CIA Talking points altered by administration (Posted on 11/16/12 at 11:52 am to a want)
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People usually die in terrorist attacks. They happen in every administration. You guys are so desperate.
This is what your problem is right here. Thanks for having my back sir. You really do not understand do you? I will stop at that.
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Wolfhound45  LSU Fan WhereverTheArmySendsUs Member since Nov 2009 7404 posts
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| re: Petraeus - CIA Talking points altered by administration (Posted on 11/16/12 at 11:53 am to Jbird)
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He was amazed a Desert Storm guy was still roaming the hallways
Nice. 
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Jbird  Iowa Fan Odramaville with EthanL Member since Oct 2012 4864 posts

| re: Petraeus - CIA Talking points altered by administration (Posted on 11/16/12 at 11:55 am to Wolfhound45)
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Nice.
Actually fossil comment, and how are you not yet oil being extracted from a well! So I told him pony up the beer junior. 
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Wolfhound45  LSU Fan WhereverTheArmySendsUs Member since Nov 2009 7404 posts
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| re: Petraeus - CIA Talking points altered by administration (Posted on 11/16/12 at 11:58 am to Jbird)
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Actually fossil comment, and how are you not yet oil being extracted from a well!
I am 49 now. Holding up well as a fossil. Glad you taught that young whipper snapper to stay out of your yard!
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SECSolomonGrundy Slaughter Swamp Member since Jun 2012 1411 posts

| re: Petraeus - CIA Talking points altered by administration (Posted on 11/16/12 at 12:00 pm to Wolfhound45)
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The fact that I know the difference between and 82mm and an 81mm mortar should have clued you in. And maybe the location where I am posting from. So yeah, I have been to Southwest Asia and the Middle East maybe once or twice in my thirty years (and counting).
ok, well, im no weapons expert, but I've been to enough middle eastern countries that I'm not at all surprised when I hear reports that the extremist groups over there are heavily armed. so my question to you is, Is there anything about the particular weapons used in this attack which should raise suspicion? Are those weapons not typical of the region?
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Jbird  Iowa Fan Odramaville with EthanL Member since Oct 2012 4864 posts

| re: Petraeus - CIA Talking points altered by administration (Posted on 11/16/12 at 12:00 pm to Wolfhound45)
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I am 49 now. Holding up well as a fossil. Glad you taught that young whipper snapper to stay out of your yard!
I finished it off by introducing him to my son E-2 who is a year older than he is, told him just cuz the knees go doesn't mean the dog can't hunt! 
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