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junkfunky  LSU Fan I can't find my village Member since Jan 2011 9809 posts

| re: Full disclosure..... (Posted on 11/16/12 at 11:41 am to LSUAlum2001)
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Send that shite to me. I'll fence the items and we will split the profits.
I know a guy who got court marshaled for "stealing" apparently unwanted items.
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davesdawgs  Georgia Fan Georgia Member since Oct 2008 10990 posts

| re: Full disclosure..... (Posted on 11/16/12 at 11:41 am to ShortyRob)
This is the fundamental problem with government spending in general; there's no accountability because you are spending other people's money. Meanwhile there are likely hundreds of stories aka Benghazi where additional expenditures to improve security are more than justified. 
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rsande2  LSU Fan Member since Jan 2006 3423 posts

| re: Full disclosure..... (Posted on 11/16/12 at 11:42 am to ShortyRob)
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The high level military officers here have a COMPLETE and TOTAL disregard for the taxpayer
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I have literally never even heard someone ask "how much".
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In the meetings, you'd just assume the shite was free.
3 words OPM. I saw the same thing with public school system fwiw.....
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Sentrius  USA Fan Fort Rozz Member since Jun 2011 7719 posts

| re: Full disclosure..... (Posted on 11/16/12 at 11:43 am to Wolfhound45)
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It's why I support auditing all federal agencies
FIFY 
That too. 
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FightinTiger  Georgia Tech Fan wat Member since Oct 2003 7667 posts

| re: Full disclosure..... (Posted on 11/16/12 at 11:44 am to Sentrius)
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Sentrius
Is we can still be friends even tho i made you has an uncomfortable?
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Wolfhound45  LSU Fan WhereverTheArmySendsUs Member since Nov 2009 7478 posts
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| re: Full disclosure..... (Posted on 11/16/12 at 11:44 am to junkfunky)
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I know a guy who got court martialed (FIFY) for "stealing" apparently unwanted items.
Same, same. Good friend of mine from my college ROTC program did the same (lieutenant colonel at the time of the crime). At the correctional facility at Camp Lejeune last I heard. Wife and two kids. Shame.
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Wolfhound45  LSU Fan WhereverTheArmySendsUs Member since Nov 2009 7478 posts
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| re: Full disclosure..... (Posted on 11/16/12 at 11:46 am to davesdawgs)
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This is the fundamental problem with government spending in general; there's no accountability because you are spending other people's money.
There you have it.
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Sentrius  USA Fan Fort Rozz Member since Jun 2011 7719 posts

| re: Full disclosure..... (Posted on 11/16/12 at 11:48 am to FightinTiger)
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Is we can still be friends even tho i made you has an uncomfortable?
I was just joking around last night. We're friends breh. 
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baybeefeetz the now Member since Sep 2009 11668 posts
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| re: Full disclosure..... (Posted on 11/16/12 at 11:48 am to ShortyRob)
Great post! I am sure some of this is unavoidable and some is avoidable and wasteful. NOBODY ever seems to discuss this. There is waste everywhere to cut.
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FightinTiger  Georgia Tech Fan wat Member since Oct 2003 7667 posts

| re: Full disclosure..... (Posted on 11/16/12 at 11:48 am to Sentrius)
Then report to the OT. We must defend the legacy of Michael Jackson. Why? Cause I take up some random arse causes.
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TX Tiger  LSU Fan at home Member since Jan 2004 15408 posts

| re: Full disclosure..... (Posted on 11/16/12 at 11:51 am to ShortyRob)
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Full disclosure.....I'm in Afghanistant right now The high level military officers here have a COMPLETE and TOTAL disregard for the taxpayer.
Full disclosure.....water is wet. The naivety displayed on this board on a daily basis is and has always been a source of entertainment. Thank you for that.
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Sentrius  USA Fan Fort Rozz Member since Jun 2011 7719 posts

| re: Full disclosure..... (Posted on 11/16/12 at 11:56 am to FightinTiger)
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Then report to the OT. We must defend the legacy of Michael Jackson. Why? Cause I take up some random arse causes.
I haven't posted on the OT in months and not sure I want to start that again now. About Michael Jackson, well he has some great music and I say that as a deaf man who has a cochlear implant but I'm not totally convinced he's innocent. Nothing personal man. 
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FightinTiger  Georgia Tech Fan wat Member since Oct 2003 7667 posts

| re: Full disclosure..... (Posted on 11/16/12 at 11:58 am to Sentrius)
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All it takes for Michael Jackson to be remembered improperly is for Sentrius to remain on the PoliBoard.
- Patrick Henry
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junkfunky  LSU Fan I can't find my village Member since Jan 2011 9809 posts

| re: Full disclosure..... (Posted on 11/16/12 at 12:01 pm to Wolfhound45)
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Same, same.
Wait, so it isn't a parade? I sure is dum.
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Good friend of mine from my college ROTC program did the same (lieutenant colonel at the time of the crime). At the correctional facility at Camp Lejeune last I heard.
I'm pretty sure this guy was overseas in the marines, but luckily ( ) the army took him in.
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Wolfhound45  LSU Fan WhereverTheArmySendsUs Member since Nov 2009 7478 posts
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| re: Full disclosure..... (Posted on 11/16/12 at 12:04 pm to junkfunky)
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I'm pretty sure this guy was overseas in the marines...
This guy is Army. Always has been. Young. Still cannot believe he did it. Incredibly stupid.
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ShortyRob  LSU Fan Savannah, GA Member since Oct 2008 23975 posts

| re: Full disclosure..... (Posted on 11/16/12 at 12:19 pm to Wolfhound45)
K........had to bail on this thread. Hope some of you enjoyed
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Tiger n Miami AU83  Auburn Fan Miami Member since Oct 2007 25191 posts

| re: Full disclosure..... (Posted on 11/16/12 at 12:21 pm to ShortyRob)
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You are ALL getting fricked out here and I'm sure some of you know it. But you just have no goddamned idea. However bad you think it is, you're wrong. It's worse.
Surprising, I am well aware of everything you said, but can't really say a whole lot about it even though I would love to. I will just say I have a client that is a military contractor (not a corporate contractor, an individual) that went over there to build some stuff for the military for a few years and got gov contracts and did fine for himself.
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TheDoc  USA Fan Louisiana Member since Dec 2005 88241 posts
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Here's the biggest problem: Each department/command is given a budget for each fiscal year, if they don't spend ALL of that budget, whether they need it or not, the next time a budget is set, it is lower than before. So they keep spending even of they don't need it to keep getting bigger and bigger budgets.
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ShortyRob  LSU Fan Savannah, GA Member since Oct 2008 23975 posts

| re: Full disclosure..... (Posted on 11/16/12 at 12:38 pm to TheDoc)
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Each department/command is given a budget for each fiscal year, if they don't spend ALL of that budget, whether they need it or not, the next time a budget is set, it is lower than before.
Oh but if that were the only problem. But no, it's worse. There are Soldiers all over Afghanistan doing without stuff. All over, there are Soldiers with shitty conditions that could be upgraded. But they wont be upgraded because top dogs are too busy thinking up shite they want to spend money on that makes THEIR area more awesome. Dude, if I could itemize the shite that is being spend on that has ZERO to do with the war effort and ZERO to do with making Joe's life better, you'd barf.
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Wolfhound45  LSU Fan WhereverTheArmySendsUs Member since Nov 2009 7478 posts
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| re: Full disclosure..... (Posted on 11/16/12 at 12:42 pm to ShortyRob)
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Oh but if that were the only problem.
And you are just dealing with the cost of the item. Not even touching on the shipping (air from CONUS) or ground (sea to Pakistan then over land to Afghanistan) costs that are incurred. And we lease those 40 foot MILVANs. Yes, you are dead on brother. Stay low, stay safe, and get home soon.
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