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Is tipping primarily a learned behavior?



Wondering your opinions on this because it came up in discussion recently and I never thought about it in depth.

In today's day and age with social networking, message boards like this, and 24/7 interaction with each other through some means, how do we still have people that dont tip? Basically if you have access to the internet, you should know to tip your waiters and waitresses accordingly.

Lets take out people that dont tip because of bad service, different culture, yada yada yada. Ok so thats out of the way. Im also assuming everyone knows that servers do not make a full wage and that they rely on tips.

Are people not tipping because they grew up watching their parents pay the bill and never see them leave extra money? Do they just hate to see more money coming out of their pocket? Something else?

Now to the obvious situation that prompted my original conversation. Black people are notorious for not tipping and everyone knows it. Leaving a dollar on a $100 check or not leaving anything at all. I have friends in the service industry and they all,including my black friends, pretty much dread waiting on black people because of this. How has the message not gotten out about tipping? Or is it just so expected that they arent going to tip that they just go along with it?

Thoughts?







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Carson123987
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re: Is tipping primarily a learned behavior?


nb4racist


good post. no excuse not to tip for good service






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dustinm27
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people who dont tip are just selfish. That's pretty much all I can say without being banned. If you cant afford a tip, then you shouldnt eat out





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i think it just boils down to people being good and bad tippers. my uncle is filthy rich and is the nicest guy but is seriously the worst tipper i've ever seen.





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gjackx
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Is tipping primarily a learned behavior?

Definitely. Some have never learned and old habits die hard.






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TigerHam85
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re: Is tipping primarily a learned behavior?


It's what they choose.

I choose to tip 100-150% on 2 beers at the bar because I want them to remember me when I come back.

Now, short story from Ham.

About 3 years ago a few of us were going to walkons. I was the only one 21 and I knew one of the bartenders well. Walked up to her and asked if she could take care of my 3 friends. Of course she says yes. We each have 6-8 beers and a couple shots then all close our tabs. I was broke at that time in my life and left 20-25%. As did my other friends, except one. My friend (the bartender) comes to me and says "tell your friend to go frick himself with his 50 cent tip on a 30$ ticket."

We all gave him shite and he said "her job is a joke, she doesn't need to be tipped much."

After we kept giving him shite he changed his story to "I knew y'all were all tipping good, so I didn't think I needed to."

Ever since that time me and said friend speak once or twice a year. Pissed me off.

Moral of the story, some people just fricking suck at tipping and it will never change.







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Rohan2Reed
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re: Is tipping primarily a learned behavior?


It's a matter of perspective. For instance, I do not tip well unless I truly think the server did a spectacular job. I'm not tipping 18 or 20% for shitty service just because they're a waiter and that's what society has told me I'm supposed to do.

If they don't like relying on tips I suggest they either 1) become really good at their job, or 2) choose a different career path. This isn't indentured servitude, after all.






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liuyaming
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Tipping habits definitely interest me. I was an ok tipper until I started serving. Now it's at least 20% unless the service is absolutely terrible. There are so many variables that can make the server seem at fault. I worked in the back of the house too and sometimes our ticket times would run long or food was forgotten to be started. It could also be the server's fault for not ringing it in. Most of the time it is taken out on the server's tip. If one of my tables order was screwed up, I would grab my manager and have him talk to the table. Most of the time, I would still be tipped well.

I know it's probably rude, but if someone picks up the bill when I'm eating, I always glance to see how much they tip. Rich people tend to not tip well. I also have friends that worked in the industry with me that will order shite they can't afford and the tip would suffer.

Maybe we should start some research on the psychology of tipping.






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Rouge
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obligatory

I'm very sorry the government taxes their tips, that's fricked up. That ain't my fault. It would seem to me that waitresses are one of the many groups the government fricks in the arse on a regular basis. Look, if you ask me to sign something that says the government shouldn't do that, I'll sign it, put it to a vote, I'll vote for it, but what I won't do is play ball. And as for this non-college bull shite I got two words for that: learn to frickin' type, 'cause if you're expecting me to help out with the rent you're in for a big frickin' surprise.






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iluvdatiger
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re: Is tipping primarily a learned behavior?


I am not so sure it learned by what your parents tipped when you were growing up. My husband tips 20%+ yet his father barely tips 15%. In my college years of working in a bar and restaurant, the pentacostal and black people were the worst restaurant tippers and the white trash were the worse bar tippers.





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Degas
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Black people are notorious for not tipping and everyone knows it.

This could have been a concise OP.








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BottomlandBrew
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Is tipping primarily a learned behavior?


I learned to tip by being a waiter for a summer. Hated it. I gladly tip people well cause Lord knows I don't want to be waiting tables.






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Walt OReilly
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i tip 33% to the bars i frequent a lot(Zee Zees, Duvics, Chelseas, B&Ts)

leave around 20% to bars i randomly go to






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Displaced
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re: Is tipping primarily a learned behavior?


people who don't tip well never worked in the food service industry. it's as simple as that.





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TigerSpy
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re: Is tipping primarily a learned behavior?


as opposed to what?





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Remington Dawg
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I have aquestion. I worked in the food biz all through college and always tip a good percent depending on service. Lately though my wife has been on me about tipping on takeout. Her point- your not being served, cook cooks it and boxes it after you call and you drive burning your gas and pick up the takeout box from a bartender and walk out. I see her point but was curious at to what other readers thought?





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VOR
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re: Is tipping primarily a learned behavior?


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Black people are notorious for not tipping and everyone knows it.


No doubt, there's some truth to that, but it's certainly not universal and it's getting better (according to my friends in the industry). Also depends upon the restaurant.

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Is tipping primarily a learned behavior?



For the most part, but there are individual variations. I don't understand people who are hesitant to tip generously. I tip the hell out of bartenders, and, believe me, it pays off in the long run. I also tip well for food service. I just think it's part of the bargain. It's a tough job and I appreciate the work they do. If the service sucks, and it's actually the server's fault and not that of the kitchen, etc., the tip will go down accordingly.






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alajones
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Thoughts?
Delivering pizzas will make you a racist. Drivers aways dread grabbing Sprite out of the cooler. Yes, plenty of white people don't tip also, and Mexicans are almost as bad, but blacks are by far the worst. It isn't just the white drivers either, the black drivers don't get tipped either.

I haven't delivered since before 9/11 though, doubt things have changed that much.






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RBWilliams8
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Yes it's a learned behavior. Like most things, people don't think it's wrong if they were brought up not knowing better.

I'm embarassed when someone I'm with doesn't tip and will usually throw down an extra 3-4 bucks to accomidate a little.






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