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lsu_tiger_az  LSU Fan Arizona Member since Mar 2004 28606 posts
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| re: Petraeus knew "almost immediately" (Posted on 11/15/12 at 5:42 pm to boxcar willie)
The assessment concluded that a spontaneous protest over an anti-Muslim video had evolved into an attack on the American consulate, a description that Rice presented in television interviews the Sunday morning after the attack.quote:
everyone knew this was terrorist activity. When you attack an embassy it's a terrorist act. No one has argued that it wasn't.
Really?
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Five days after the attack on the U.S. Consulate in Libya, U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice described what precipitated the deadly incident based on initial intelligence that later proved incorrect, the deputy CIA director told Congress on Thursday. In a closed-door session with the House Intelligence committee, Mike Morell said Rice was provided with an unclassified version of events at the U.S. mission in Benghazi that left American Ambassador Chris Stevens and three others dead, according to Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., a member of the panel. The assessment concluded that a spontaneous protest over an anti-Muslim video had evolved into an attack on the American consulate, a description that Rice presented in television interviews the Sunday morning after the attack. LINK
Her "testimony tour", during the first week. was blaming it on the video....
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However it seems for some reason the GOP doesn't like that a video may have added fuel to the fire with these middle easterners. They think it is a big conspiracy. A conspiracy to accomplish what exactly they won't say. If Obama would have used the word terrorist activity more would it have made the GOP happier? To what end. Makes no sense.
No, the GOP called it what it was.... a BULL shite EXCUSE and MISINFORMATION! 
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boxcar willie  LSU Fan kenner Member since Mar 2011 2835 posts

| re: Petraeus knew "almost immediately" (Posted on 11/15/12 at 5:51 pm to Big12fan)
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One doesn't justify the other, but it seems like Republicans are more interested in discrediting Obama whenever they can than they are about doing anything positive. Maybe that's why Obama was re-elected.
exactly, people just get tired of all the political games. The Dems may have there share of loons, Pelosi, but the GOP is just dominated by them these days, to there own detriment.
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Lsut81  LSU Fan Member since Jun 2005 54822 posts

| re: Petraeus knew "almost immediately" (Posted on 11/15/12 at 5:57 pm to okietiger13)
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Petraeus knew "almost immediately" That Benghazi attack was linked to terrorists. According to CNN
So Obama on his own accord said that he sent Susan Rice out to do the news shows. So basically, he told Rice to lie to the American people
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boxcar willie  LSU Fan kenner Member since Mar 2011 2835 posts

| re: Petraeus knew "almost immediately" (Posted on 11/15/12 at 5:58 pm to lsu_tiger_az)
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The assessment concluded that a spontaneous protest over an anti-Muslim video had evolved into an attack on the American consulate, a description that Rice presented in television interviews the Sunday morning after the attack.
the particular attack in Benghazi was more preplanned than they thought apparantly. Doesn't mean it wasn't a terrorist act. The embassy was attacked, and 4 americans were killed, that was obviously known at that time, of course that is a terrorist act. That would seem self explanatory. They seemed to be searching for the reasons for the attack.
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boxcar willie  LSU Fan kenner Member since Mar 2011 2835 posts

| re: Petraeus knew "almost immediately" (Posted on 11/15/12 at 6:04 pm to lsu_tiger_az)
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No, the GOP called it what it was.... a BULL shite EXCUSE and MISINFORMATION!
to what gain? There must be some upside to it for the Dems to go to all this trouble right? What would they have to gain by saying the video was involved in feuling these attacks. So the degree that the video was or was not related to the attacks is the big gotcha the GOP is after?
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Lsut81  LSU Fan Member since Jun 2005 54822 posts

| re: Petraeus knew "almost immediately" (Posted on 11/15/12 at 6:11 pm to boxcar willie)
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What would they have to gain by saying the video was involved in feuling these attacks
They were attempting to keep Obamas claims that he changed the feelings of the middle east about America in order. Couple that with it being 2 months before an election, they didn't want Obama to look bad that a US Ambassador was killed on his watch. The attack wasn't his fault, but nonetheless, it makes him look bad.
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lsu_tiger_az  LSU Fan Arizona Member since Mar 2004 28606 posts
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| re: Petraeus knew "almost immediately" (Posted on 11/15/12 at 6:34 pm to boxcar willie)
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the particular attack in Benghazi was more preplanned than they thought apparantly. Doesn't mean it wasn't a terrorist act. The embassy was attacked, and 4 americans were killed, that was obviously known at that time, of course that is a terrorist act. That would seem self explanatory. They seemed to be searching for the reasons for the attack.
Really? Wow! Was I the only one that thought "Hey, it's September 11th and they attacked us, couldn't that have been the reason..... obviously, the the White House thought it was the Movie of the Week and they sat around for six hours watching it so they could see how it would end.... And the cover story could have been better.... Maybe a BBQ at the consulate where the BBQ pit flamed over and scared the terrorists who thought they were going to perish in the ensuing blaze...
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lsu_tiger_az  LSU Fan Arizona Member since Mar 2004 28606 posts
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| re: Petraeus knew "almost immediately" (Posted on 11/15/12 at 6:38 pm to boxcar willie)
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to what gain? There must be some upside to it for the Dems to go to all this trouble right? What would they have to gain by saying the video was involved in feuling these attacks. So the degree that the video was or was not related to the attacks is the big gotcha the GOP is after?
Easy one...... Odumbass invaded Libya. it was his "kitten"! Can't have bad news coming out of there, can we...... 
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Wolfhound45  LSU Fan WhereverTheArmySendsUs Member since Nov 2009 7468 posts

| re: Petraeus knew "almost immediately" (Posted on 11/15/12 at 6:43 pm to okietiger13)
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Hey, at least I didn't say that "Linsey Graham" (sic) was the senator from Georgia. 
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boxcar willie  LSU Fan kenner Member since Mar 2011 2835 posts

| re: Petraeus knew "almost immediately" (Posted on 11/15/12 at 6:45 pm to Wolfhound45)
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Hey, at least I didn't say that "Linsey Graham" (sic) was the senator from Georgia.
ok then, with out looking it up name every senator and what state they are from.
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Wolfhound45  LSU Fan WhereverTheArmySendsUs Member since Nov 2009 7468 posts

| re: Petraeus knew "almost immediately" (Posted on 11/15/12 at 6:47 pm to boxcar willie)
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ok then, with out looking it up name every senator and what state they are from.
Lighten up boxcar. You were trying to take a shot at the GOP and you pulled a boner of a mistake. Happens.
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buddhavista Member since Jul 2012 3543 posts

| re: Petraeus knew "almost immediately" (Posted on 11/15/12 at 7:42 pm to Lsut81)
I think there are two possible scenarios 1. The CIA is wildly incompetent 2. Obama administration tried to spin this either way it sucks. And well, we know #1 is accurate since the frick up that was iraq. And well we kow #2 has been accurate on other fronts. So maybe we had an incompetent agency, coupled with a spin heavy white house and we get this CF.
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Wolfhound45  LSU Fan WhereverTheArmySendsUs Member since Nov 2009 7468 posts

| re: Petraeus knew "almost immediately" (Posted on 11/15/12 at 7:58 pm to buddhavista)
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I think there are two possible scenarios
Third option that was a very true observation from our most recent election; 3. We heard/told the truth as we wanted it to be rather than as it was. The administration narrative was that an Arab Spring had ushered in new opportunities for diplomatic engagement in the Middle East, that al Qaeda was defeated. And then that narrative had a deadly encounter with reality...
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LSUgusto  LSU Fan Member since May 2005 15575 posts

| re: Petraeus knew "almost immediately" (Posted on 11/15/12 at 8:03 pm to Big12fan)
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Reagan was pretty much immune to criticism at the same level.
Yeah, I remember how the media and Dems kept Iran-Contra on the back pages.
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boxcar willie  LSU Fan kenner Member since Mar 2011 2835 posts

| re: Petraeus knew "almost immediately" (Posted on 11/15/12 at 8:52 pm to Wolfhound45)
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The administration narrative was that an Arab Spring had ushered in new opportunities for diplomatic engagement in the Middle East, that al Qaeda was defeated.
that's bull shite. The first part of the statement may or may not be true, no one knows yet, it's still all in flux over there. But I would like to see a quote from the admin that says they defeated al Qaeda. The only thing I've heard is that they finally got Bin Ladin.
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| re: Petraeus knew "almost immediately" (Posted on 11/15/12 at 8:53 pm to doubleb)
"After all Obama said the next day it was a terrorist attack" That is patently FALSE. Candy Crowley who backed up Obama's lie in the 2nd debate, even admitted afterwards, her mistake. I happen to believe she knew the truth at the time she injected herself ino the debate.
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City  LSU Fan Baton Rouge Member since Jul 2005 688 posts

| re: Petraeus knew "almost immediately" (Posted on 11/15/12 at 8:57 pm to boxcar willie)
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exactly, people just get tired of all the political games. The Dems may have there share of loons, Pelosi, but the GOP is just dominated by them these days, to there own detriment.
Pelosi? That's it? You are a dishonest shite. You also have serious issues with their/they're/there.
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wavebreaker  LSU Fan New Orleans Member since Nov 2012 467 posts

| re: Petraeus knew "almost immediately" (Posted on 11/15/12 at 8:58 pm to buddhavista)
Rep king said the closed hearing today revealed: The CIA talking points release by CBS wasn't the CIA document. The actual document mentioned AQ and likely a terrorist attack. Someone rewrote it. Those testifying couldnt say who rewrote it. Just on Hannity.
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JohnnyKilroy  North Carolina Fan Member since Oct 2012 5134 posts

| re: Petraeus knew "almost immediately" (Posted on 11/15/12 at 8:59 pm to wavebreaker)
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The CIA talking points release by CBS wasn't the CIA document. The actual document mentioned AQ and likely a terrorist attack. Someone rewrote it. Those testifying couldnt say who rewrote it.
If truth, then boom.
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boxcar willie  LSU Fan kenner Member since Mar 2011 2835 posts

| re: Petraeus knew "almost immediately" (Posted on 11/15/12 at 9:02 pm to LSUgusto)
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Yeah, I remember how the media and Dems kept Iran-Contra on the back pages.
maybe, but I don't recall the Dems going after Bush or Reagan every time a US diplomat or embassy or US installation was attacked in the middle east in the past, not to anywhere near this extent anyway. Even saw some saying this could rise to the level of impeachment on the looneyville Hannity show tonight. Weren't there 230 marines killed in an attack on a gov installation in the middle east during the Reagan administration. I don't recall dems calling for impeachment over it or even attacking Reagan over it. There was no where near this level of partison attacks after 9-11 towards Bush, if anything we all seemed to draw together.
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