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bmy
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This time it will be different, the Zionist will kill them all and we will have peace an harmony as the Palestinians grow to love the Israeli over lords who take what they want and reduce the indigenous population to subsistence in camps and enclaves. More money for israel, Jesus loves them.








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CarrolltonTiger
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I said Israel had the right to determine if it was in her national interest to attack the USS Liberty,



Indeed you said knowing the Liberty was a neutral ship and was in international waters you claimed israel had the right to violate international law and commit murder against US citizens if it was in their interest.


You have some hate for America,

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Loss of territory is one of the consequences,


No it is not, no one recognizes the occupied territories as Israel except POS that support the killing of US sailors for the good of israel.

Also Egypt =/= Palestinian people, who do exist.




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Poodlebrain
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Egypt blocked the Strait. Israel relatiated against by attacking not only Egypt, but also Jordan and Syria. Who was responsible for drawing the U.S. into WWII? Was it our fault for cutting off Japanese oil or their fault for attacking Pearl Harbor?
Syria had a mutual defense treaty with Egypt. Syria supported the blockade of the Straits of Tiran so it in effect declared war on Israel the same as Egypt. Israel asked Jordan to stay out of the war, but Jordan joined Egypt and it allowed Iraqis to attack Israel from its territory. Israel attacked Jordan in response to attacks from Jordan.






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CarrolltonTiger
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Syria had a mutual defense treaty with Egypt. Syria supported the blockade of the Straits of Tiran so it in effect declared war on Israel the same as Egypt.


We have a mutual defense pact with Greece, when they attacked Cyprus were we responsible?

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Israel asked Jordan to stay out of the war,


That is total BS, read Benny Morris the zionist historian on this, Israel wanted Jordan involved so it could seize Jerusalem and the west bank,

The most likely "need" (your concept) of Israel to destroy the USS Liberty was to stop the intelligence gathering which showed the disinformation campaign to lure Jordan into the war.






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trackfan
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The most likely "need" (your concept) of Israel to destroy the USS Liberty was to stop the intelligence gathering which showed the disinformation campaign to lure Jordan into the war.

Exactly! The Israelis didn't want the U.S. to know that not only was it about to settle scores with Egypt by taking the Sinai, but it was also going to sieze land from Syria and Jordan to help realize the dream of Greater Israel.






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DawgfaninCa
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There's a difference between Semitic Jews, a.k.a. Hebrews, and European Jewish refugees from WWII.


Don't just assert it. Explain the difference.

The Nazis and the Arabs who supported them wanted all Jews to be the same...DEAD!

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Read a history book. There's no disputing the fact that Israel fired the first shot of the Six Day War, that's incontrovertible.


I provided a link to a site that explained what led up to the 1967 war and I posted some quotes from the site.

Did you bother to go to the site and read the quotes I posted?

If not, here they are again.

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On May 15, Israel's Independence Day, Egyptian troops began moving into the Sinai and massing near the Israeli border. By May 18, Syrian troops were prepared for battle along the Golan Heights.


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Nasser ordered the UN Emergency Force (UNEF), stationed in the Sinai since 1956 as a buffer between Israeli and Egyptian forces after Israel’s withdrawal following the Sinai Campaign, to withdraw on May 16. Without bringing the matter to the attention of the General Assembly (as his predecessor had promised), Secretary-General U Thant complied with the demand. After the withdrawal of the UNEF, the Voice of the Arabs radio station proclaimed on May 18, 1967: As of today, there no longer exists an international emergency force to protect Israel. We shall exercise patience no more. We shall not complain any more to the UN about Israel. The sole method we shall apply against Israel is total war, which will result in the extermination of Zionist existence.(6) An enthusiastic echo was heard May 20 from Syrian Defense Minister Hafez Assad: Our forces are now entirely ready not only to repulse the aggression, but to initiate the act of liberation itself, and to explode the Zionist presence in the Arab homeland. The Syrian army, with its finger on the trigger, is united....I, as a military man, believe that the time has come to enter into a battle of annihilation.(7)


What did Israel do when they saw Arab solders on their border ready to invade them after their Arab leaders said they would "enter into a battle of annihilation" and that "The sole method we shall apply against Israel is total war, which will result in the extermination of Zionist existence."?

Israel did what it was forced to do. It defended itself against the enemy who was going to invade and destroy them.

Anyone who claims it was Israel who started the 1967 war because Israel shot first in self defense at an enemy who just days earlier said that they were going to attack Israel and destroy them then gathered on Israel's border to do so is distorting reality.

Did you see that photo of the "Palestinian Security Forces" giving the Nazi salute in 2005?

Are those the people you want to support?

If they are then you are an Islamonazi supporter!






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trackfan
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There's a difference between Semitic Jews, a.k.a. Hebrews, and European Jewish refugees from WWII.


Don't just assert it. Explain the difference.

The difference is that European Jews aren't indigenous to Palestine, and therefore had no more claim to Palestine that they did to California, New Zeland or Brazil.

Do you agree with Churchill's assertion that since European Jews were of the master race, they were morally entitled to ethnically cleanse and usurp Palestinians, whom he referred to as dogs?






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dr smartass phd
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Anyone know if they keep their women in line over there?


Looks like they would keep you in line.





^^^^^^^She is soooooooooo in my wheelhouse















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olgoi khorkhoi
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are these same goofballs asking for the US to give back land to Mexico?

The "palestinian people" is a fabrication and everyone knows it. "Palestine" is a Roman creation and the people all of a sudden became "palestinian" after the 6-day war.

The fake palestinians have no claim to Jerusalem as a holy land. There is no mention of Jerusalem in the koran. They fake palestinians showed up looking for jobs when the Jews started to gather in Jerusalem and the economic activity picked up.

The Arab attackers told the fake palestinians to leave prior to the 6-day war with the idea that they would annihilate Israel. They got their asses kicked and Israel retook what has historically been theirs from Jordan (the Westbank and Eastern Jerusalem) and Egypt (Gaza) who attacked them.

If you don't want to lose your shit, don't attack people.

People fight wars and the maps change. Deal with it. Israel had to for thousands of years.






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FaSheaux
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Of course the Arabs refused to sit idly by and allow a Jewish state, made up of European exiles, to come into existence at their expense in 1948. They weren't the perpetrators of the Holocust and saw no reason why they should be made to pay the price for crimes committed by Europeans. But the Europeans, lead by Winston Churchill, rejected the logic that Palestine's indigenous people had a right to live in Palestine. Here's Churchill in his own words regarding Arab objections to the creation of Israel.

"I do not agree that the dog in a manger has the final right to the manger even though he may have lain there for a very long time. I do not admit that right. I do not admit for instance, that a great wrong has been done to the Red Indians of America or the black people of Australia. I do not admit that a wrong has been done to these people by the fact that a stronger race, a higher-grade race, a more worldly wise race to put it that way, has come in and taken their place."

The bottom line is that Israel was founded on the premise of White supremacy as a way for Europe to solve its "Jew problem". Why didn't Europe give Jews land to create their state? Why didn't they make Germany give up Bavaria for example? Why did the U.S. turn away a ship full of Jewish WWII refugees?

EDIT: By the way, Israel started the Six Day War, not the Arabs. Get your facts right.


Wow! You are so delusional that you actually believe what you are saying? The Israelites had been living in the holy land way before there was anything such as a Palestinian or Islam for that matter. Actually, if you care to do your homework, the land which was given the name Palestine, comes from the Greek word philistine, which translates to " enemies of gods people". Look that sh*t up. I highly doubt he meant Allah considering Islam wouldn't be in existence for a few hundred more years. The Romans gave them that name because they were enemies of the Israelites. The Jews today have more in common with Israelites than the modern Palestinians have to do with the philistines.



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Poodlebrain
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The Hitler Enabler in his finest form. I guess the concept of free will escapes you too. Countries, just like individuals, are free to choose how they will behave. That includes having the freedom to choose to violate laws and risk the consequences.

Did Israel occupy the West Bank, Gaza and Golan Heights in a war of aggression? Yes, but the Arabs were determined to be the aggressors, and as such they are not prevented by international law from loss of territory.






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trackfan
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The Israelites had been living in the holy land way before there was anything such as a Palestinian or Islam for that matter.

You're doing the same stupid thing that all the Israel-firsters do, that is conflating European Jews with Semitic Jews. This is just as silly as conflating Mexican Catholics with Italian Catholics, Indonesian Muslims with Nigerian Muslims or Ethiopian Jews with Polish Jews for that matter. Religious affiliation has nothing at all to do with whether or not a people are indigenous to a region or not.






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Robin Masters
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And this thread is why you have the adage, "possession is 9/10th of the law." You can argue and fight for the next 1000 years about who's land it was originally but all that's really important is who has it now. In the real world "might equals right." Palestine should be grateful they are even allowed to exist.





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CarrolltonTiger
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And this thread is why you have the adage, "possession is 9/10th of the law."


Your adage has no legal value in international law. Hence, the occupation continues and israel is an occupier not sovereign over the occupied territories.

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In the real world "might equals right."


Then people like you should not complain about the insurrection by the oppressed peoples or their use of force to obtain freedom. And if israel is eliminated as might makes right that would be OK. Not Jesus, not the law of nations, not your Holy Book, just might and criminal behavior is rewarded in the view of people like you.

<The stupidity of the Evangelical Zionist enabler is on display in your post.>






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KeyserSoze999
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Israeli comandettes would take all my money, no doubt





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Robin Masters
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Your adage has no legal value in international law. Hence, the occupation continues and israel is an occupier not sovereign over the occupied territories.


I'm not a lawyer but I don't think the adage has any legal value anywhere. That's why it's an adage and not, oh I don't know,a law!

Thanks for the sweeping generalization, you know who else likes to play good guys vs bad guys? My 5 year old.

The irony is that im sure you've complained once or twice to your LSU buddies that Bama fans are always, "living in the past".






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CarrolltonTiger
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I'm not a lawyer but I don't think the adage has any legal value anywhere. That's why it's an adage and not, oh I don't know,a law!


Then if you knew it had no value why did you bring it up?

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Thanks for the sweeping generalization, you know who else likes to play good guys vs bad guys? My 5 year old.


You post that might makes right and the law or morality is of no concern and you compare me to a 5 year old? You continue your display of idiocy.

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The irony is that im sure you've complained once or twice to your LSU buddies that Bama fans are always, "living in the past".


I don't get the irony or the basis for that bit of stupidity. But keep up your display of ignorance you are a delight.






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Robin Masters
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Then if you knew it had no value why did you bring it up?


I said it has " no legal value". FYI, this is not a legal matter.

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You post that might makes right and the law or morality is of no concern and you compare me to a 5 year old? You continue your display of idiocy.


Yes, arguing the morality of the situation in the middle east should help to resolve things in short order. Glad you're here to bring a resolution. Arrogant and stupid. Nice combo.

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I don't get the irony or the basis for that bit of stupidity. But keep up your display of ignorance you are a delight.


You don't get it...yet I'm the stupid one...mmmkay.

Doesn't matter what you think really, the future does not bode well for the Palestinians and before long they will viewed by history through the prism of, "what the hell were they thinking".






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CITWTT
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The attacks got put on a fast track immediately after Oboe was re-elected. What a co-inky-dink.





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DawgfaninCa
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The difference is that European Jews aren't indigenous to Palestine, and therefore had no more claim to Palestine that they did to California, New Zeland or Brazil.


The "Palestinians" supported the Nazis in WWII and should pay for supporting the Holocaust.

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Do you agree with Churchill's assertion that since European Jews were of the master race, they were morally entitled to ethnically cleanse and usurp Palestinians, whom he referred to as dogs?


I don't care what Churchill thought or said. At least he fought on the right side.

Now answer my question.

Are you an Islamonazi supporter?




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