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777Tiger 
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| re: What makes your average southern man anti-union? (Posted on 11/15/12 at 1:11 pm to Muppet)
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quitting
Do you quit every thing every time something doesn't go your way?
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OldSouth
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| re: What makes your average southern man anti-union? (Posted on 11/15/12 at 1:11 pm to Sophandros)
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I mean, you see idiots claiming that unions are the reason that American auto manufacturers can't make a good car, but the fact of the matter is that the unions don't make the decisions to focus on shite like SUVs and Hummers when the price of fuel was going up...
No, they don't make the decisions about what to produce. They decide that it's going to cost twice as much to make it with Union labor. Then they bitch about jobs going overseas. Idiots.
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Muppet
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| re: What makes your average southern man anti-union? (Posted on 11/15/12 at 1:14 pm to 777Tiger)
Am I supposed to mistake that for an argument? I believe the logical way to settle a contract when the involved parties cannot reach an agreement is to voluntarily end it.
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777Tiger
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| re: What makes your average southern man anti-union? (Posted on 11/15/12 at 1:15 pm to Muppet)
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logical
You don't get out much do you?
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Tds & Beer 
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| re: What makes your average southern man anti-union? (Posted on 11/15/12 at 1:15 pm to SoFla Tideroller)
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"What makes your average southern man anti-union?"
Common sense
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fr33manator
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| re: What makes your average southern man anti-union? (Posted on 11/15/12 at 1:16 pm to Muppet)
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I believe the logical way to settle a contract when the involved parties cannot reach an agreement is to voluntarily end it.
Perhaps. But there are often loose ends and collateral issues that make such a clean break...problematic.
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KG6
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| re: What makes your average southern man anti-union? (Posted on 11/15/12 at 1:16 pm to Sophandros)
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This post was edited on 11/29 at 2:54 pm
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Muppet
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Cogito ergo odio populus
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| re: What makes your average southern man anti-union? (Posted on 11/15/12 at 1:17 pm to 777Tiger)
I'll bow out of this fudge factory while you continue to string together witless rhetorical zingers.
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NoHoTiger
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| re: What makes your average southern man anti-union? (Posted on 11/15/12 at 1:19 pm to Sir Drinksalot)
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Union dues went to obamas campaign. That should be enough to piss off any southern man.
it should also be enough to piss off any union member who does not want their dues going to that. That's what private contributions are for.
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Breesus 
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Member since Jan 2010
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| re: What makes your average southern man anti-union? (Posted on 11/15/12 at 1:19 pm to Swoopin)
Like every other institution, the basic thought behind it is good, and it starts with a great intention, but greedy power hungry douches eventually find there way to the top either by force, purpose, accident, or necessity. They then systematically ruin the program, degrade the people who actually need it, undermine it's original and intended purpose and bastardise its legitimacy in a few specific foundations, which spreads like a cancer to the rest of the programs instituted elsewhere.
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Flame Salamander
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| re: What makes your average southern man anti-union? (Posted on 11/15/12 at 1:20 pm to Muppet)
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I am relieved that someone has the decency to protect you from the employer with whom you entered a mutual contract.
What a dimwitted comment.
I suppose you would like to go back to the days of feudalism where your local lord owned everything...including all of the jobs and you.
It's not either/or people. A nice blend of free market capitalism with a substantial socialistic democratic safety net seems to be the ideal formula for humans to thrive.
Somewhere in the middle is the correct answer. Our country is heading toward the European Social Democracy model (thank goodness) because that seems to be the most equitable solution.
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Rickety Cricket 
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| re: What makes your average southern man anti-union? (Posted on 11/15/12 at 1:21 pm to Flame Salamander)
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I suppose you would like to go back to the days of feudalism where your local lord owned everything...including all of the jobs and you.
Yeah, unions are the only thing standing between this country and feudal rule 
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777Tiger
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| re: What makes your average southern man anti-union? (Posted on 11/15/12 at 1:22 pm to Muppet)
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witless rhetorical zingers.
Not trying to be witty, but think about what you posted. If two parties can't agree 100% on all issues 100% of the time, they should go their separate ways? No one would stay married, we wouldn't have a court system, government, etc. That's an asinine over-simplification.
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Flame Salamander
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| re: What makes your average southern man anti-union? (Posted on 11/15/12 at 1:23 pm to Rickety Cricket)
I like your TV character rickety.
No, that was an extreme example but it took into account the history or how and why Unions arose.
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OldSouth
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| re: What makes your average southern man anti-union? (Posted on 11/15/12 at 1:23 pm to Flame Salamander)
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I suppose you would like to go back to the days of feudalism where your local lord owned everything...including all of the jobs and you.
It's not either/or people. A nice blend of free market capitalism with a substantial socialistic democratic safety net seems to be the ideal formula for humans to thrive.
This is just dumb.
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Muppet
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| re: What makes your average southern man anti-union? (Posted on 11/15/12 at 1:24 pm to Flame Salamander)
I think you confused civic structure with economic structure somewhere in that enlightened straw man.
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Flame Salamander
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| re: What makes your average southern man anti-union? (Posted on 11/15/12 at 1:25 pm to Muppet)
They were one and the same.
...same as church and state used to be.
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Flame Salamander
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Texas Gulf
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| re: What makes your average southern man anti-union? (Posted on 11/15/12 at 1:26 pm to OldSouth)
Do you think you are not living in a social democracy now? Of course you are.
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makinskrilla 
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| re: What makes your average southern man anti-union? (Posted on 11/15/12 at 1:27 pm to Swoopin)
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So what is it about the southern upbringing & history that makes us so opposed to unions
The fact that we are not controlled by the mafia.
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Bullfrog
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| re: What makes your average southern man anti-union? (Posted on 11/15/12 at 1:28 pm to 777Tiger)
While the rise of sweat shops contributed to the need for a union, the advance of capitalism reduced that need as conditions improved so that workers would be attracted to better places to work.
Capitalism solves the need for unions. But the way this country is going anti-capitalist may cause unions grow.
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