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Mac 
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| 2 BP Employees to face manslaughter charges; largest criminal fine in history (Posted on 11/15/12 at 9:15 am)
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Oil giant BP has agreed to pay the largest criminal penalty in U.S. history, totaling billions of dollars, for the 2010 oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, a person familiar with the deal said Thursday.
oil-rig-explosion-boats.JPGMichael DeMocker, NOLA.com | The Times-PicayuneOil giant BP has agreed to pay the largest criminal penalty in U.S. history, totaling billions of dollars, for the 2010 oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, a person familiar with the deal said Thursday.
The person, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak on the record about the deal, also said two BP PLC employees face manslaughter charges over the death of 11 people in the explosion of the Deepwater Horizon oil rig that triggered the massive spill.
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Me4Heisman 
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| re: 2 BP Employees to face manslaughter charges; largest criminal fine in history (Posted on 11/15/12 at 9:18 am to Mac)
Cash grab
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McChowder 
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| re: 2 BP Employees to face manslaughter charges; largest criminal fine in history (Posted on 11/15/12 at 9:32 am to Mac)
Help me understand this...
The deep water horizon isn't owned by BP it's owned, staffed and operated by Transocean. BP only owned/possessed the exploration rights of the drilling site. How is BP liable to criminal penalties totaling billions of dollars if the rig wasn't under their direct control? I know they have the bigger pockets but am I missing something?
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BROffshoreTigerFan
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| re: 2 BP Employees to face manslaughter charges; largest criminal fine in history (Posted on 11/15/12 at 9:43 am to McChowder)
BP has the final say on well operations. I believe that there were documented concerns from Halliburton (cement company) and transocean about the safety of drilling ahead, and BP made the decision despite those concerns.
I'm no lawyer. Just how I've seen things work offshore.
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Federal Tiger
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| re: 2 BP Employees to face manslaughter charges; largest criminal fine in history (Posted on 11/15/12 at 9:49 am to McChowder)
Under Federal regulations, the obligation for safe operations fall solely on the Outer Contintental Shelf Operator - BP.
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LSU7096
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| re: 2 BP Employees to face manslaughter charges; largest criminal fine in history (Posted on 11/15/12 at 9:52 am to BROffshoreTigerFan)
Transocean and Haliburton employees had a chance to shut the job down and they didn't. Mistakes were made, but the Tranocean employee who was the US Coast Guard recognized person in charge of the rig has more fault than any other person. They are responsible for the safety of all people on their vessel.
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BROffshoreTigerFan
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| re: 2 BP Employees to face manslaughter charges; largest criminal fine in history (Posted on 11/15/12 at 9:54 am to LSU7096)
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Transocean and Haliburton employees had a chance to shut the job down and they didn't
They voiced their concerns and were overridden by BP.
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LSU Fan Tylertown
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| re: 2 BP Employees to face manslaughter charges; largest criminal fine in history (Posted on 11/15/12 at 9:57 am to BROffshoreTigerFan)
News also says that Transocean and Halliburton are also negotiating there civil penalaties
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Federal Tiger
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| re: 2 BP Employees to face manslaughter charges; largest criminal fine in history (Posted on 11/15/12 at 9:58 am to BROffshoreTigerFan)
Guys - nobdoy implemented a stop the job on the rig at the time of the accident. The crew, overseen by BP company men, made a critical mistake in accepting the results on the negative pressure test (and other indicators) that the well was flowing.
On the TO rig, the Master was in charge when the rig was undertow....while latched up to the BOP, the OIM was in charge.....but that is mute point. BP is responsible for the operations conducted by the contractors working on their behalf.
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LSU Fan Tylertown
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| re: 2 BP Employees to face manslaughter charges; largest criminal fine in history (Posted on 11/15/12 at 10:01 am to Federal Tiger)
You are correct Sir on all that. Do you agree with the manslaughter charges? I do
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McChowder
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| re: 2 BP Employees to face manslaughter charges; largest criminal fine in history (Posted on 11/15/12 at 10:01 am to Federal Tiger)
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Under Federal regulations, the obligation for safe operations fall solely on the Outer Contintental Shelf Operator - BP.
That explains it. Thanks!
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C
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| re: 2 BP Employees to face manslaughter charges; largest criminal fine in history (Posted on 11/15/12 at 10:02 am to Mac)
Who within BP is facing manslaughter charges?
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LSU Fan Tylertown
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| re: 2 BP Employees to face manslaughter charges; largest criminal fine in history (Posted on 11/15/12 at 10:03 am to C)
The have not said yet only that 2 employees may/will be charged
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Federal Tiger
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| re: 2 BP Employees to face manslaughter charges; largest criminal fine in history (Posted on 11/15/12 at 10:03 am to LSU Fan Tylertown)
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Do you agree with the manslaughter charges?
Can't answer that until I see the charges and who they are against. I am intereseted in this, but I won't answer that question.....yet.
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Federal Tiger
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| re: 2 BP Employees to face manslaughter charges; largest criminal fine in history (Posted on 11/15/12 at 10:04 am to LSU Fan Tylertown)
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The have not said yet only that 2 employees may/will be charged
I have seen reports that state "as many as four."
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McChowder
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| re: 2 BP Employees to face manslaughter charges; largest criminal fine in history (Posted on 11/15/12 at 10:11 am to LSU Fan Tylertown)
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News also says that Transocean and Halliburton are also negotiating there civil penalaties
yeah but compare transoceans 1.5 billion to BP's 20 billion plus another 2.3+ billion. It's a money grab whether you agree with how much culpability they had or not.
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LSU Fan Tylertown
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| re: 2 BP Employees to face manslaughter charges; largest criminal fine in history (Posted on 11/15/12 at 10:59 am to Federal Tiger)
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Hawgon 
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| re: 2 BP Employees to face manslaughter charges; largest criminal fine in history (Posted on 11/15/12 at 12:04 pm to Mac)
Great, we are fricking Italy now. Prosecuting people in political sham trials for accidents.
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lsu480 
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| re: 2 BP Employees to face manslaughter charges; largest criminal fine in history (Posted on 11/15/12 at 12:07 pm to Mac)
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BP waived a $75 million cap on its liability for certain economic damage claims under the 1990 Oil Pollution Act, though it denied any gross negligence.
Well this was dumb.
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getback
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| re: 2 BP Employees to face manslaughter charges; largest criminal fine in history (Posted on 11/15/12 at 12:10 pm to Hawgon)
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Great, we are fricking Italy now. Prosecuting people in political sham trials for accidents.
Do what? 
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