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JohnnyKilroy 
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| re: Texas to begin drug testing for welfare/unemployment benefits (Posted on 11/15/12 at 11:45 am to haggard79)
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My earlier statement said take the cost of the test out of their welfare check.
Unconstitutional.
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JohnnyKilroy
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| re: Texas to begin drug testing for welfare/unemployment benefits (Posted on 11/15/12 at 11:46 am to RogerTheShrubber)
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Most conservatives claim the don't trust govt, and prefer limited govt yet want to trust govt to do this.
Like I said, a whole buncha fake conservatives in this thread.
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bradybones24 
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| re: Texas to begin drug testing for welfare/unemployment benefits (Posted on 11/15/12 at 11:48 am to JohnnyKilroy)
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My earlier statement said take the cost of the test out of their welfare check.
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Unconstitutional.
Couldn't you make the argument that welfare is unconstitutional?
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SECSolomonGrundy
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| re: Texas to begin drug testing for welfare/unemployment benefits (Posted on 11/15/12 at 11:49 am to BTHog)
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but in this particular case if someone can't see the simple logic of people who choose to partake in expensive habits should not be collecting welfare is just a fricking idiot.
i agree with that, but you said i was stupid because i said that that creating a new program to drug test and require community service adds to big government. Its simple mathematics. Adding programs = bigger government. If you cant understand something that simple then your opinion is of no value.
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RogerTheShrubber
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| re: Texas to begin drug testing for welfare/unemployment benefits (Posted on 11/15/12 at 11:51 am to JohnnyKilroy)
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Like I said, a whole buncha fake conservatives in this thread.
Well, at least one admitted he isn't a conservative.
People love em some gubment.
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rsande2
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| re: Texas to begin drug testing for welfare/unemployment benefits (Posted on 11/15/12 at 11:56 am to JohnnyKilroy)
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Like I said, a whole buncha fake conservatives in this thread.
And some in here don't know what it means to be a fiscal conservative. I am for this and I am about as conservative as you can get fiscally. Go ahead and flame and use your short sighted, narrow minded, vision lacking talking points, mean while I will be looking at the big picture, thx.
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JohnnyKilroy
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| re: Texas to begin drug testing for welfare/unemployment benefits (Posted on 11/15/12 at 11:57 am to rsande2)
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And some in here don't know what it means to be a fiscal conservative. I am for this and I am about as conservative as you can get fiscally. Go ahead and flame and use your short sighted, narrow minded, vision lacking talking points, mean while I will be looking at the big picture, thx.
Ain't nuthin fiscally conservative about the this practice.
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bradybones24
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| re: Texas to begin drug testing for welfare/unemployment benefits (Posted on 11/15/12 at 11:57 am to RogerTheShrubber)
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My earlier statement said take the cost of the test out of their welfare check.
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Unconstitutional.
Do government workers get drug tested? Is that unconstitutional as well?
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haggard79
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| re: Texas to begin drug testing for welfare/unemployment benefits (Posted on 11/15/12 at 11:57 am to JohnnyKilroy)
I'm listening....go on
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haggard79
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| re: Texas to begin drug testing for welfare/unemployment benefits (Posted on 11/15/12 at 11:58 am to SECSolomonGrundy)
I never said add to gov
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bradybones24
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| re: Texas to begin drug testing for welfare/unemployment benefits (Posted on 11/15/12 at 11:59 am to bradybones24)
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JohnnyKilroy
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bradybones24
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| re: Texas to begin drug testing for welfare/unemployment benefits (Posted on 11/15/12 at 11:59 am to bradybones24)
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JohnnyKilroy
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| re: Texas to begin drug testing for welfare/unemployment benefits (Posted on 11/15/12 at 12:00 pm to haggard79)
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I'm listening....go on
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rsande2
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| re: Texas to begin drug testing for welfare/unemployment benefits (Posted on 11/15/12 at 12:01 pm to JohnnyKilroy)
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Ain't nuthin fiscally conservative about the this practice.
Perhaps you should go read the definition of a fiscal conservative, collect your thoughts and get back to us......
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haggard79
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| re: Texas to begin drug testing for welfare/unemployment benefits (Posted on 11/15/12 at 12:01 pm to bradybones24)
Exactly ...by his statements drug testing period is unconstitutional
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JohnnyKilroy
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| re: Texas to begin drug testing for welfare/unemployment benefits (Posted on 11/15/12 at 12:02 pm to rsande2)
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Perhaps you should go read the definition of a fiscal conservative, collect your thoughts and get back to us......
Spending X dollars in an attempt to save <X dollars is not fiscally conservative. Thanks.
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JohnnyKilroy
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| re: Texas to begin drug testing for welfare/unemployment benefits (Posted on 11/15/12 at 12:02 pm to haggard79)
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Exactly ...by his statements drug testing period is unconstitutional
Not what I said at all. 
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bradybones24
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| re: Texas to begin drug testing for welfare/unemployment benefits (Posted on 11/15/12 at 12:04 pm to JohnnyKilroy)
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JohnnyKilroy
So let me get this straight...it's constitutionally OK to drug test state workers who use their income to feed their children but....
It's non constitutional to drug test welfare recipients (state worker) who use their income to feed their children...
Hmmm...yeah makes total sense.
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JohnnyKilroy
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| re: Texas to begin drug testing for welfare/unemployment benefits (Posted on 11/15/12 at 12:07 pm to bradybones24)
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Hmmm...yeah makes total sense.
Take it up with the federal judge who ruled on it.
And no, welfare recipients aren't government employees in any sense of the word.
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rsande2
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| re: Texas to begin drug testing for welfare/unemployment benefits (Posted on 11/15/12 at 12:07 pm to JohnnyKilroy)
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Spending X dollars in an attempt to save <X dollars is not fiscally conservative.
Go read the definition again and then ponder the subject of the thread. Thx.
Hint: There are more line items to the fed budget than welfare.
Hint #2: OVERALL
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