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wavebreaker
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Obama confirmed after the fake outrage that Rice was appearing and speaking on behalf of the White House.

So after they absolutely knew it was an organized terrorist attack they put Rice out there to LIE to the American public.

Impeach!






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nobodytooimportant
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I promise you if such an order had been given, that our Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines would have done anything to try to save the lives of fellow Americans regardless of the circumstances.


No one doubts that they did do everything in their power, but a lot of people hear seem to thing the US military is Harry Potter or something and can just show up wherever they want immediately.

I seem to recall reading somewhere, though I don't know where, that some sort of commando team was mobilized and made it as far as Italy before being told to stand down because everything was secure and the embassy folks were on their way back to tripoli.

LINK
This wasn't the story I read but it goes over the same ground.






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notslim99
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Obama confirmed after the fake outrage that Rice was appearing and speaking on behalf of the White House.

So after they absolutely knew it was an organized terrorist attack they put Rice out there to LIE to the American public.

Impeach!


I hate to say this, but get used to saying President Biden. In the next two years, Obama will be impeached or forced to resign over this. I'm bookmarking this to either say "I told you so" or eat my words.






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Flame Salamander
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Susan Rice, stanford graduate, Rhodes scholar, PhD...black. Oh know I see how McCain can consider her to be not very bright. Afterall, he finished 895th out of 899 at west point and thought Sarah Palin was intelligent.

by the way, have he and palin made up yet?






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CamdenTiger
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Interesting question, why was the ambassador to the U.N. called upon to answer for the administration in the first place? Was that really her role? Hmmmmm.


Real good question...Why not the state dept? Now Obama is saying you can't criticise her, cause she wasn't involved...Excuse me? She was the face of the Administration going around on all the sunday talk shows..If this don't smell, I don't know what to tell you. Sounds like they were looking for someone to carry their water(however false) with no chance at retribution. Her reward for the lies, is a better job in the administration....WOW!






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nobodytooimportant
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Real good question...Why not the state dept?


Dumb ass, the US Ambassador to the UN is a member of the State Department, she does report to Hillary Clinton and further is a cabinet secretary in her own right thus is an important member of the administration.






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Flame Salamander
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THey are going after her because she's an up and coming minority star for the dem party...they want to bring her down now before she gets to powerful.





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oneusairman
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No one doubts that they did do everything in their power, but a lot of people hear seem to thing the US military is Harry Potter or something and can just show up wherever they want immediately.

I seem to recall reading somewhere, though I don't know where, that some sort of commando team was mobilized and made it as far as Italy before being told to stand down because everything was secure and the embassy folks were on their way back to tripoli.


I think you need to do alittle research about military precedures and what exactly happened their. The CIA agents asked to save the embassy. They were told to stand down. Military assets were in a reasonable amount of distance to respond. A couple of hours later after they chose to disobey orders to stand down they evacuated the embassy and requested help immediately. They also lasered targets to be bomb by fighter jets that could make the strike within an hour. You know we do have things like Fighter Jets that can be deployed within hours anywhere in the world. So they had targets painted and are screaming for support to take out these targets. Our military would and could of responded but it is obviouse they were told to stand down and not engage. I am a veteran and I know how these procedures work and what our capabilities are. Within 15 minutes of the attack the President is informed immediately. A decision was made within 15 minutes of the attack to not respond. That is why the CIA agents were told to stand down. Put two and two together and you will shortly figure it out soon






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nobodytooimportant
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I think you need to do a little research about reality.

People went to rescue the CONSULATE (seriously people are the words consulate and embassy that similar), they were never told not to. There was no couple of hour delay, the annex responded almost immediately (save waiting about 20 minutes for more support from the Libyans which went it didn't come they left anyway)

Random guy on the message board asserts the military had people ready to go, so tell me where were they? How long would it have taken to get them there?

Keep up with your crazy talking points, the laser bit has been dropped because it was not true.

Plus bombs from jets are a really poor defense weapon when you have an unknown number of people inside a compound mixed in with friendlies. Also the bombs from planes tend to cause really large explosions and you really only want them dropping near your position as an absolute last resort, especially when direct communication with the jet is likely impossible since it wasn't planned for.

If you look at the timeline, the attack began at 9:40 and everyone was out of the compound by 11:30. that is two hours. Even if the decision was made right them to bomb something, between the time it would have taken to brief pilots, ready a plane, and get them on target I am not sure if you could have done it (plus using a plane to bomb is still a really stupid idea)


Also except in the delusional world of the right wind media, the president never ordered anyone to stand down.

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oneusairman
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"A Special Operations team, or CIF which stands for Commanders in Extremis Force, operating in Central Europe had been moved to Sigonella, Italy, but they were never told to deploy. In fact, a Pentagon official says there were never any requests to deploy assets from outside the country. A second force that specializes in counterterrorism rescues was on hand at Sigonella, according to senior military and intelligence sources. According to those sources, they could have flown to Benghazi in less than two hours. They were the same distance to Benghazi as those that were sent from Tripoli. Spectre gunships are commonly used by the Special Operations community to provide close air support.

According to sources on the ground during the attack, the special operator on the roof of the CIA annex had visual contact and a laser pointing at the Libyan mortar team that was targeting the CIA annex. The operators were calling in coordinates of where the Libyan forces were firing from.

Defense Secretary Leon Panetta told reporters at the Pentagon on Thursday that there was not a clear enough picture of what was occurring on the ground in Benghazi to send help."

The two CIA Ops were killed by The Libyan mortar team. Weither you believe this report or not is up to you. Also, I said you need to do alittle research cause it is obviouse you have no clue about what our military assets are and the type of resources that we have like tactical bombs that can take out I don't know say something like Israel did today by killing that Hamas leader in a car. Which had caused no other casualities in the surrounding area. A tactical bomb would be able to destroy the mortar team with little or no casualities to innocents.

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nobodytooimportant
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According to sources on the ground during the attack, the special operator on the roof of the CIA annex had visual contact and a laser pointing at the Libyan mortar team that was targeting the CIA annex. The operators were calling in coordinates of where the Libyan forces were firing from.


You believe your sources, I'll believe Ignatius in the link I provided. His timeline has the mortar attack, which came 8 hours after the initial attack and was aimed at the annex, as catching everyone by surprise no one knew it was there. Lasers, jets, etc would have done nothing.

A Spectre gunship has a maximum speed of 300 MPH and the distance to sigonella to Benghazi is 400 miles. That means in order to have gotten it to Benghazi by 11:30 PM when everyone left the consulate, you would have had to have left Sigonella by 10:10. As the attack began at 9:40 PM, do you think 30 minutes was enough time to get the word to the airbase, fuel and arm the gunship, brief the pilot, and get on their way? (here is a hint, no)






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themunch
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there was not a clear enough picture



From the flippin drone? They were watching from the infamous Situation Room. And did nothing.






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XKEnut
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THey are going after her because she's an up and coming minority star for the dem party...they want to bring her down now before she gets to powerful.


She's no up and coming star. They want Kerry as SOS because they feel they can work with him. Rice is like most others in the Administration. It's their way or the highway.






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nobodytooimportant
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From the flippin drone? They were watching from the infamous Situation Room. And did nothing.


Seriously just because you guys keep repeating lies does not make it so. There was no drone providing real time info to the situation room during the initial attack. Again use common sense, drones don't fly fast, how long do you think it takes to get one there?

Also a picture form the sky does not mean you are clear about what is going on in a compound that has been overrun. Think about what the knew, they had a missing ambassador somewhere on the compound. You had people with guns running around, you had other people with guns (no one in uniform) trying to save them. Who is who from the air? Further where is the ambassador? Should I shoot there? maybe that is him, maybe he just inside that burning building? What is going on, do I have direct communications with anyone on site?

Again you keep believing in some Harry Potteresque shit, I just can just conjure up a military option immediately and get them on site to a location where I don't have any assets within 400 miles nor was anyone on alert ready to go.






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redandright
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Face it guys. He's going to get away with this. He has a media that will cover for him, an adm inistration littered with psychopaths who have no compunction about destroying anyone or anything that gets in its way,and a lazy electorate, that doesn't want to be bothered.
Feel sorry for y'all. Most of you sound pretty young. He's going to leave this country in a giant mess.






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BFIV
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Obama just said in the press conference: I told them to do anything they needed to do to protect our people.



I don't believe at all that Obama told them to "do anything they needed to do to protect our people." I believe he lied...again. If he had actually said that, then WHY was General Ham relieved of command when he was preparing to ignore orders to "stand down"?






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CajunAngele
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I think that Obama's news presser yesterday was a message to Petraeus. 'COME AND GET ME, COME AFTER ME.' (As in, I AM POTUS you CAN'T TOUCH ME.) Then Obama again blamed the spooks faulty intel.

So, I think it was a Chicago mob message to Petraeus to warn him to keep his mouth shut in behind closed doors testimony and carry the, 'it was a video protest' line of the story to somehow cover Obama. So, Obama wants him to say something like,as ex head spook that it sure 'looked' like the video and demonstration.

I think Obama had the news presser to get the message to Petraeus that he is POTUS and untouchable, can claim 'Executive Privilege' anytime and usurp anything and as POTUS he could also control whether Petraeus gets court martialed, or not. In sworn, behind closed doors, testimony; Obama already has Petraeus by the balls by already painting him dishonest and untrust worthy, as a currently resigned chief spook from the affairs.

I hope that Petraeus outplays Obama.






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nobodytooimportant
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This shite again. The only source for the gen ham stuff is this freakin message board. That isnt a credible source.





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themunch
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drones don't fly fast.. so what? does not mean one was not in use.
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gain you keep believing in some Harry Potteresque shit, I just can just conjure up a military option immediately and get them on site to a location where I don't have any assets within 400 miles nor was anyone on alert ready to go.


They had requested help long before the attack occurred and were not responded to at all.

Left to die. repeat this and get it in your minds eye.






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themunch
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Obama already has Petraeus by the balls by already painting him dishonest and untrust worthy, as a currently resigned chief spook from the affairs.





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