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MrTide33
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Is Abortion Murder?


If you believe it is in certain cases but not others, please state when it changes and your reasoning. Also give reasoning for yes or no answers please


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Tigah in the ATL
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re: Is Abortion Murder?


no

That was simple






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oklahogjr
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re: Is Abortion Murder?


No.





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Tactical1
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No





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HailHailtoMichigan!
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re: Is Abortion Murder?


yes.

Unless the baby is conceived under involuntary circumstances.






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MrTide33
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re: Is Abortion Murder?


Does anybody actually have any reasoning?






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Tigah in the ATL
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re: Is Abortion Murder?


your if didn't ask for that.

get it together






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FenrirTheBeard
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yes. Unless the baby is conceived under involuntary circumstances.


Doesn't quite add up. Either it is, or isn't. How the child is conceived predicates whether it is murder or not?






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benhamin5555
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re: Is Abortion Murder?


Early in the pregnancy, no. An embryo is not a sentient being and thus cannot be "murdered".

Later in the pregnancy, when the fetus develops cognitive thought and a nervous system, a better case can be made that it is murder.




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HailHailtoMichigan!
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How the child is conceived predicates whether it is murder or not?
It's a justifiable murder if it is involuntary, imo.






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MrTide33
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re: Is Abortion Murder?


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Doesn't quite add up. Either it is, or isn't. How the child is conceived predicates whether it is murder or not?


You are correct. I believe it is always murder, regardless of how the baby is conceived






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LSUSaintsHornets
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re: Is Abortion Murder?


It depends at what stage the abortion is taking place, but in general no.





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MrTide33
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re: Is Abortion Murder?


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It's a justifiable murder if it is involuntary, imo.




Justifiable murder??






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blackjackjackson
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re: Is Abortion Murder?


is euthanasia via morphine w/ pallative care murder?





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re: Is Abortion Murder?


In some cases it should be considered murder.





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MrTide33
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is euthanasia via morphine w/ pallative care murder?


Yes






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cwill
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Posted by HailHailtoMichigan! yes. Unless the baby is conceived under involuntary circumstances.


You're just saying yes, but your inaction to prevent "murder" clearly contradicts your words.

If anti-abortionists really considered abortion the murder of a human being they'd do more than post on TD.....if you knew 5 yr old children were being systematically murdered in a building in your town what would you do? Post on TD or take up arms to stop it?

It's clear and understandable that people have a personal moral issue with abortion, but its also clear they do not consider it murder.






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MrTide33
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Can I please get some reasoning?

i.e. The baby is not viable until such-and-such. Or it has to take a breath before it's alive. Or it needs a heartbeat, etc.






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FenrirTheBeard
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Justifiable murder


Wow, that's kinda harsh. I hope you or I never have to "justify" murder.

Personally, I feel that when it is still a mass of undifferentiated cells, it is not murder.






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benhamin5555
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re: Is Abortion Murder?


A lot of pro-choice people make the mistake of trying to argue that abortion does not kill human life.

Abortion does kill human life. But I value the reduction of human suffering more than the absolute preservation of human life, so if there is no suffering involved with an abortion I don't have a problem with it. As long as you pay for it yourself and it's early in the pregnancy, I'm fine with it.






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