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would be able to charge $600 for it.


Knew a guy that shipped braces all over the world. I'd bet big money they cost less than $30 to manufacture






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SoulGlo
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I only go to a GP if I need a physical, otherwise they are a waste of time.


I have to pay a $450 lab bill to learn this lesson. My wife went in for a physical, and got billed for "diagnosis" for blood work, as she said "I sometimes have abdominal pain." The lab processed the blood work, and the doctor said "see a specialist." "What's it about?" "I don't know. See a specialist."






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XKEnut
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WTF?

Why did he go to a GP instead of going straight to the ENT?

I only go to a GP if I need a physical, otherwise they are a waste of time. I have the same issues with bad allergies and probably get a sinus infection 3x year, but I go, pay my $30, and get on my way.


Glad you have all the answers.

Son goes to his GP once or twice a year for sinus probs. Has been with the same guy for 20 years or more and a Z Pack or similar will usually knock it out. Doc is fee for service so $60 takes care of it. Works out fine but this was a particularly stubborn event.

The only other time he went to this ENT firm was 10 years ago to get deviated septum fixed and sinuses cleaned out.






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By forcing them to purchase insurance?



Yes?


Lowering the cost of insurance, not the cost of healthcare. That's a stickier issue, much like the cost of higher education.






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XKEnut
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Any sinus/soft tissue x-rays?
Any blood work (CBC) to rule out infection?
Highly doubt the "nurse assistant" was a nursing assistant if he spent that much time talking to her/him.
Only thing Obamacare will do to this scenario is 5 years from now, he would have had to wait 6 months for the appointment.


No tests, the guy he talked to wasn't an MD. That's all I know. All they did was write him a new prescription.






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the auto industry has gone outrageous in the cost for automobiles. It is ridiculous that it costs $40,000 for a nice SUV that has 3 rows. So, to fix this you think the government should completely take over the car industry.

An HOFOSA post. Hall of Fame of Silly Analogies.






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TheOcean
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Agreed. If you could only buy an SUV from 2-3 sources then it would be a decent analogy.





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TK421
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Lowering the cost of insurance, not the cost of healthcare.


Except the price of insurance has increased. Thus people that couldn't afford insurance previously are now forced to purchase it at a higher price. Gotta love government solutions.







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He was there for 30 minutes, saw the MD for 5 minutes and spent the other 25 talking to his nurse assistant.
That's all? he just """saw""" them.

Really?

That's the way it works?


What? Did he wave from a distance?
Were they on the other side of sound-proof glass?
Want to know who accounted for a sizable percent of that bill, that I'd bet he didn't see?







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No tests, the guy he talked to wasn't an MD. That's all I know. All they did was write him a new prescription.



Then I would check into some billing fraud.






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slackhouse
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Hall of Fame of Silly Analogies

It's actually a pretty simple analogy, if you think the government should take over health care because of the rising cost. It would make more sense to regulate it and control the cost. It would be far cheaper for the federal government to do that.

Now, if your goal is to just get everyone covered, then the analogy means nothing. But, that's not what this discussion was about.






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XKEnut
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That's all? he just """saw""" them.

Really?

That's the way it works?


What? Did he wave from a distance?
Were they on the other side of sound-proof glass?
Want to know who accounted for a sizable percent of that bill, that I'd bet he didn't see?



Yeah, saw him and discussed his symptoms for about 5 mins. Felt of his sinuses and left. No xrays, tests, just a prescription.






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XKEnut
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Then I would check into some billing fraud.


He called the ENT office to say there must be a billing error. Woman said no, that is what they charge since he is considered a new patient. He was a patient of their firm 10 years ago for a deviated septum operation. Didn't fill out any new paperwork this time.






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Catman88
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Obamacare does not really fix the price issue of anything. Nothing was really done to curb any of this.

I went to see my Dr's NP 2 weeks ago. The ONLY thing they did was have a nurse take my weight and BP and the NP came in looked at the results and said my BP was down and I lost 10 pounds. Well NO shite I knew that. She said good work. Gave me my form and I had to pay $35 copay and Blue Cross was charged like $160. So $200 for them to tell me by BP and weight! Not to mention I never saw an MD.



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He called the ENT office to say there must be a billing error. Woman said no, that is what they charge since he is considered a new patient. He was a patient of their firm 10 years ago for a deviated septum operation. Didn't fill out any new paperwork this time.


All of that sounds rather fishy.........never heard of a "new patient" fee.






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PRK
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Except the price of insurance has increased. Thus people that couldn't afford insurance previously are now forced to purchase it at a higher price. Gotta love government solutions.



I won't bother linking ThinkProgress articles that address this problem. The thrust of most similar arguments is that uninsured people are less likely to receive preventative healthcare or elective surgery, driving up costs and thus premiums.

You raise an interesting point, though.






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TK421
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You raise an interesting point, though.


Thanks.

They are really only two solutions that could possibly work. Either have the government in complete control of the industry, or have it out of the industry all together. This in between shite is driving up costs, reducing salaries of the professionals involved, and burdening the middle class with purchasing products they may not want or really need.






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The answer relies more on the Consumer side and less on Insurance and Governmental intervention. Your bill was a fallacy from the word go as you basically paid the total fee that was paid. The Insurance company probably paid another 50-100. They showed you the bill but not the discount. The Government, through medicare and/medicaid reimbursements has devoured the fee schedule for doctors and the Insurance companies use that in the negotiation.

Unfortunately the ACA does what I believe is the opposite of what should occur in bringing cost down. We need more high deductible plans combined with HSA's to pay for doctors visits and routine checkups. Put the onus on Doctors to offer price sheets helping the Patient(consumer) determine the which doctors to see and how much they will spend.






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Oh my, fellow tiger cubs please start thinking deeper. It is simple economics. The villain is not insurance companies. The reason a mere band-aid at a hospital costs $100.00 is because of illegal immigration. Hospitals are coerced to not turn away anybody. The massive influx of illegal immigrants are using hospital emergency rooms as you would your general practitioner – and they do not pay – YOU pay for it. The hospital is not going to eat the cost – therefore they are forced to raise their prices. This in turn forces insurance companies to raise their prices. It is that simple – now you know the hard truth.

Since so many people look at only the first layer of the problem, the regime plays on people’s ignorance and forces through a healthcare bill. You think your costs are going to be cheaper – ha! Here will be the new sequence of events when you go to a doctor – your doctor will enter your symptoms into a national database – it goes to Washington D.C. – the doctor waits for your “treatment” response. They make the decision – not your doctor. Are you in a State that didn’t vote for the “dear leader?” Did you vote conservative? Sorry – take a pain pill and call in the morning. Oh – so you don’t like “the system” – well just opt out then – oh by the way, pay the $2500 yearly opt out fee (which will help pay for the healthcare of somebody in a State that is obedient to the regime like California) or the IRS will garnish your wages for it - plus penalties. Now go back to your own doctor, let him decide how to treat you – and then pay him $100 for that band-aid.

Tiger cubs, welcome to the former U.S. of A. Still think the calls for secession are crazy?






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Zach
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There's something wrong with his ins co. I've never been dissatisfied with my coverage. Last procedure was removal of a benign cyst on my shoulder.

My only charge was $40. While the dermatologist was cutting it off we had a conversation.

Me: "So, doc, is this your new office?"
Her: "Yes, it's much nicer than where I was."
Me: "There are mistakes on your door sign. It says you're open till 2 a.m. every night."
Her: "You're kidding?"
Me: "Go look."

After the procedure the receptionist: "Hold on, Mr. Zach, the doctor says to give you your 40 dollars back."






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