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I think the problem is latinos think republicans don't like them. Its not the immigration issue, its how fierce the right fights to be the toughest on immigration. And I think Hispanics perceive them to be racist.
I agree that it's a big problem. Huge. It's similar to the issue with black voters. I mean, is there anyone with a brain in the world that thinks Republicans have some double-secret plan to bring back slavery that they would somehow get passed?






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Wow. Maybe this explains why we no longer have border enforcement...



Maybe?







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The Analyst


So a fantastic candidate like Rick Noriega could barely catch 42% of the vote in 08, but I'm supposed to believe this Castro woman will turn Texas blue?







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buddhavista
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I agree that it's a big problem. Huge. It's similar to the issue with black voters. I mean, is there anyone with a brain in the world that thinks Republicans have some double-secret plan to bring back slavery that they would somehow get passed?


i have suggested several times here, its about tone more than message.

Conservatives hate that form often matters over substance. But its reality, and they need to deal with it. I think obama 2008 and 12 proves this. He is all hat, no cattle.






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If the GOP wants to stand by its principles even though it means its own destruction, then good for it. But if it chooses that route, it can't complain about dying.



So be it.

The day the GOP decides that fiscal common sense is less important than power is the day that this nation is dead.

You people who blindly follow the democratic party are going to have a hard time accepting the fact that, when/if you figure out you are wrong, there will be no mechanism for change because of the power you yielded to the democrats.

Anyone with half a brain knows that republicans don't hate black people...they know that republicans don't hate hispanics...they know that republicans don't hate women...they know that republican don't hate the middle class. Yet, that is literally the message we hear over, and over, and over again during campaign system and promoted by the media.

I don't care what your belief system is. But, how that doesn't scare anyone is beyond my comprehension. Seeing the dems on here touting the runaway freight train that is the democratic party is mind-boggling. Has any of you considered what giving the federal government that much power could possibly do to the country?






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Politiceaux
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i have suggested several times here, its about tone more than message.

Conservatives hate that form often matters over substance. But its reality, and they need to deal with it. I think obama 2008 and 12 proves this. He is all hat, no cattle.
I agree, and I can tell you that it's hard to come to terms with. I can't fathom anyone caring about what some jackass says about gay marriage or pot when we have $16 trillion in debt, $60 trillion in unfunded liabilities and suggest that we're killing old people any time any adjustment is suggested for the under 50 crowd. It simply blows my mind.






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buddhavista
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I agree, and I can tell you that it's hard to come to terms with.

I came to terms with it when I got dumped into product marketing, and I realized my 30 slide decks with 12 pt text was not popular.
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I can't fathom anyone caring about what some jackass says about gay marriage or pot when we have $16 trillion in debt, $60 trillion in unfunded liabilities and suggest that we're killing old people any time any adjustment is suggested for the under 50 crowd. It simply blows my mind.

The social issues affect people's lives much more tangibly than the debt issue. Most people are fricking idiots, they don't understand how crushing debt is. Just look how popular credit cards are. The only acceptable reason to run up credit card debt is an emergency, and even then I would say - why don't you have an emergency fund?






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Be careful.

I was called an idiot a few times here a few weeks ago saying that Texas was headed towards being a battleground state due to demographics.

Check the map. Blue counties on the border predominantly. That's gonna spread.

Demographic changes don't have to be widespread, they just have to affect the electoral college.

Florida looks to be gone. The panhandle can't balance out the southern tip anymore.

New Mexico is a blue state now. In 2000 it was a tie between Bush and Gore. In 2004 it was a virtual tie between Kerry and Bush.

In 2008, Obama won it by 15 points.

The shite happens fast.

The Latino vote turning Arizona and Texas into battleground states is the entire reason the Dems support a free for all on immigration.



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Yep, just look at Nevada and New Mexico. Both states have now disappeared from the GOP Electoral Map the past 2 elections.

People can deny the demographics all they want. It's our advantage now because democrats have used the census to create the largest gender gap in Presidential history and build support based among minorities: Asians (70%), Hispanics (70%) and African Americans (90%).







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I think the problem is latinos think republicans don't like them. Its not the immigration issue, its how fierce the right fights to be the toughest on immigration. And I think Hispanics perceive them to be racist.



I agree that it's a big problem. Huge. It's similar to the issue with black voters. I mean, is there anyone with a brain in the world that thinks Republicans have some double-secret plan to bring back slavery that they would somehow get passed?

Good points by both! People won't vote for you if they feel you're trying to make politcal hay at their expense even when they know it's just campaign rhetoric. You can bet that Obama's "bitter clingers" comments cost him some votes in rural Pennsylvania in 2008 among people who would have otherwise voted for them.






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i have suggested several times here, its about tone more than message.

Exactly! You'd be surprised at how many upper-middle class Blacks would vote Republican if they only changed their tone, but the stuff said in the Republican primaries leaves a bad taste in the mouthes of many Blacks.






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It's a combination of a lot of different things, though. It's not just immigration is what I'm saying. The problems the party has also include an economic outlook among the majority of hispanics that is different from the party's.



Agreed. What some people miss is that many Latinos (along with swing white voters) who aren't "stupid" and vote more for economic issues are even more concerned about corporate abuses of extreme centralized power than simply government spending.

To make headway with those voters, fiscally conservative or libertarian influenced candidates need to reveal that their policies seriously confront the middle class shrinking into working poor.

Unlike hardcore conservatives, Latinos don't tend to be a priori anti-government and so they're not as easily convinced that this trend isn't more due more to runaway corporate power that has been fueled by recent republican policy than it is due to taxes and government spending.


As an aside: truer libertarians themselves may need to look toward their natural allies on the far left in this regard who are, among other things, very serious about the plight of local, small business vs huge corporations?





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Demographics have Democrats targeting Texas and Arizona
Good Luck!






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You'd be surprised at how many upper-middle class Blacks would vote Republican if they only changed their tone


Bull shite.

The perception that Republicans are racist is the result of years of effective propaganda.

It has nothing to do with "tone."

See Robert Byrd, the brutally racist history of the Dem party, the fact that Republicans passed the civil rights act, etc.

It's a 40 year strategy that worked and sadly, has fricked over black people.






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I agree, and I can tell you that it's hard to come to terms with. I can't fathom anyone caring about what some jackass says about gay marriage or pot when we have $16 trillion in debt, $60 trillion in unfunded liabilities and suggest that we're killing old people any time any adjustment is suggested for the under 50 crowd. It simply blows my mind.


I gave up on American exceptionalism after the election. Wastes of space like sugar do not care to be bothered by any of that because it doesn't immeditately affect them in an obvious way. Instead, they would rather tout nonsensical lines about Bush's wars or Clinton balancing the budget. From a teleological standpoint, it's immoral.







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NC_Tigah
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40 year strategy that worked and sadly, has fricked over black people
Yep.






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buddhavista
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It's a 40 year strategy that worked and sadly, has fricked over black people.


Keep telling yourself its not the republicans fault and see how this works out for you.

I love how conservatives are for self responsibility except when it comes to their campaigns.






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acgeaux129
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Dude, of course the Democrats are going to have the edge. They find a group that is "behind" in many statistical categories and give a bull shite message about "catching up" by redistributing white males' money. It's a basic concept in political economy.





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buddhavista
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let's talk in 8 years, and see if you feel the same way.

I think its 10% policy, 90% tone. When the republicans argue over who can buidl the best fence to keep mexicans out, it comes off just terrible with latinos.







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acgeaux129
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Not a chance in hell in the long run. GOP's hands are effectively tied behind their backs. We will regress into a one-party system, which is something that truly delights the liberals on here. We will be similar to western Europe soon enough.





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