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Jim Rockford 
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| re: Interesting Rumor Concerning General Carter Ham and Stand Down Order (Posted on 10/27/12 at 1:41 am to Ambassador)
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I heard a story today from someone inside the military that I trust entirely.
So some anonymous guy from West Monroe on the poliboard has inside sources high in the military Chain of Command 
And a bunch of other politards buy into his fevered rumor because it jibes with what they want to believe
Whatever happened in Libya, Tigerdroppings isn't going to be the one to break it wide open.
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olgoi khorkhoi
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| re: Interesting Rumor Concerning General Carter Ham and Stand Down Order (Posted on 10/27/12 at 1:58 am to Ambassador)
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General Ham then received the order to stand down. His response was to screw it, he was going to help anyhow. Within 30 seconds to a minute after making the move to respond, his second in command apprehended General Ham and told him that he was now relieved of his command.
The story continues that now General Rodiguez would take General Ham's place as the head of Africon.
One thing is clear: The administration wanted the ambassador dead. The question is why. Was it related to gun running?
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KosmoCramer 
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| re: Interesting Rumor Concerning General Carter Ham and Stand Down Order (Posted on 10/27/12 at 2:01 am to Jim Rockford)
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So some anonymous guy from West Monroe on the poliboard has inside sources high in the military Chain of Command
And a bunch of other politards buy into his fevered rumor because it jibes with what they want to believe
Whatever happened in Libya, Tigerdroppings isn't going to be the one to break it wide open.
Ham was replaced today. It makes it all very curious.
PLUS, this doesn't even have to be true. Why were the CIA agents at the annex told to stand down?
No excuse for it.
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NocturnalTiger
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| re: Interesting Rumor Concerning General Carter Ham and Stand Down Order (Posted on 10/27/12 at 2:18 am to Rex)
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It's hilarious how they pretend to know precisely what went down, what Obama and Clinton knew and when they knew it, what Obama and Clinton did and how they did it. Each time one of their misstatements of fact gets shot down they invent something else.
You have to be absolutely F-ing retarded to think that The Leader of the Free World, with all the intelligence resources of the United States at his disposal didn't have a clue as to what was going down, as it was going down? They have satellites that can hear a squirrel fart on the other side of the world, and tell you what kind of fricking nuts he ate, and you believe they did not know???
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USMCTiger03
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| re: Interesting Rumor Concerning General Carter Ham and Stand Down Order (Posted on 10/27/12 at 4:42 am to Jim Rockford)
GFY.
- Brandon Lavergne
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NocturnalTiger
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| re: Interesting Rumor Concerning General Carter Ham and Stand Down Order (Posted on 10/27/12 at 5:00 am to USMCTiger03)
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GFY.
- Brandon Lavergne
 
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gthog61 
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| re: Interesting Rumor Concerning General Carter Ham and Stand Down Order (Posted on 10/27/12 at 5:07 am to Rex)
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Decatur, Rex, DA and Col Toddy don't automatically believe bull shite from an Obama hater.
They do automatically believe any pro obama horse shite they do hear though.
They are as despicable and worthy of scorn and ridicule as he is.
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Jim Rockford
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| re: Interesting Rumor Concerning General Carter Ham and Stand Down Order (Posted on 10/27/12 at 5:17 am to USMCTiger03)
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GFY.
- Brandon Lavergne
The Pentagon isn't Church Point.
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SmackoverHawg 
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| re: Interesting Rumor Concerning General Carter Ham and Stand Down Order (Posted on 10/27/12 at 5:25 am to Jim Rockford)
You don't find the whole situation suspicious? General Ham relieved of his duty and Rodriguez promoted? Maybe this was just a coincidence that it occurred shortly after the Benghazi attack and people ran with it, but it is interesting.
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catnip
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| re: Interesting Rumor Concerning General Carter Ham and Stand Down Order (Posted on 10/27/12 at 5:34 am to Eighteen)
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It is clear there was a major frick up, and it came under Obama's whether they like it or not
But, But, But, the white house is investigating it. Stay tuned.
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Jim Rockford
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| re: Interesting Rumor Concerning General Carter Ham and Stand Down Order (Posted on 10/27/12 at 5:39 am to SmackoverHawg)
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You don't find the whole situation suspicious? General Ham relieved of his duty and Rodriguez promoted? Maybe this was just a coincidence that it occurred shortly after the Benghazi attack and people ran with it, but it is interesting.
Who knows? What's absurd is the gullibility of people here over an unsourced internet post. "someone inside the military that I trust entirely?" Come on, now. Even if you guys want this stuff to be true, you can do better than that. Unless you're one of the parties involved, or someone very, very close to the situation, you don't know what happened with this change of command. And it's almost a metaphysical certainty that none of those people are talking to a member of the poliboard.
Remember the supposed bombshell that was supposed to break last week? That one was traced back to Mckay's buddy Chris Holton on TOS. Nothing ever came of it, either.
The truth of what happened in Libya will eventually come out. This isn't the place it will show up first.
ETA: If you've read speculation somewhere, or if someone told you their pet theory, just say so and label it as such for the rest of us to take it FWIW. Hell, it could be true, although it probably isn't. Don't try to pass yourself off as a secret squirrel with access to classified info. Anybody who's even nominally rational won't take you seriously.
This post was edited on 10/27 at 2:25 pm
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TJGator1215 
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| re: Interesting Rumor Concerning General Carter Ham and Stand Down Order (Posted on 10/27/12 at 5:57 am to kingbob)
No it's not.
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TJGator1215
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| re: Interesting Rumor Concerning General Carter Ham and Stand Down Order (Posted on 10/27/12 at 6:04 am to Jim Rockford)
No it wont. Obama will cover it up. He's protecting his Muslim brothers and the Ambassador found out Obama's plan to become dictator and impose Sharia law so Obama set him up. Heroes stood at the ready to save them but Obama threatened their children while consuming boiled children. -The Poliboard.
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baybeefeetz
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| re: Interesting Rumor Concerning General Carter Ham and Stand Down Order (Posted on 10/27/12 at 6:21 am to KosmoCramer)
Gen Ham has free speech rights, and Fox news can find him. If there's truth to that rumor, it will come out.
So this group that attacked the consulate - were they aligned with or part of the rebels we helped overthrow Ghaddafi?
Isn't that really the issue?
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Lsut81
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| re: Interesting Rumor Concerning General Carter Ham and Stand Down Order (Posted on 10/27/12 at 7:07 am to Ambassador)
Very interesting if true...
How long before Issa calls General Carter Ham to testify? Is there anything the administration could do to prevent it?
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| re: Interesting Rumor Concerning General Carter Ham and Stand Down Order (Posted on 10/27/12 at 7:11 am to baybeefeetz)
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So this group that attacked the consulate - were they aligned with or part of the rebels we helped overthrow Ghaddafi? Isn't that really the issue?
It is one issue. But it doesn't address others such as why a relief effort was not ordered? That goes right to the heart of the President's duties to defend the United States and its citizens. Does Obama take those duties seriosly? There is mounting evidence he has been derelict if the reports of failure to attend briefings, being unaware of requests for increased security by Ambassador Stevens and ordering a relief effort begun by the military to stand down are all true. Yet all we get is a no comment when our government is pressed for information with respect to these matters.
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TheDoc 
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| re: Interesting Rumor Concerning General Carter Ham and Stand Down Order (Posted on 10/27/12 at 7:19 am to baybeefeetz)
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So this group that attacked the consulate - were they aligned with or part of the rebels we helped overthrow Ghaddafi?
Yep...
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Lsut81
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| re: Interesting Rumor Concerning General Carter Ham and Stand Down Order (Posted on 10/27/12 at 7:33 am to TheDoc)
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Yep...
Ouch, that will be all over the Presidents face after he stood up in the debate and said "I went into libya and overthrew ghaddafi"
I'll believe it all when I see it, but I fear that the truth may never come out.
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Wild Thang
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| re: Interesting Rumor Concerning General Carter Ham and Stand Down Order (Posted on 10/27/12 at 7:40 am to Lsut81)
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but I fear that the truth may never come out.
If it does, it will be after the election. That's been the plan all along.
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Lsut81
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| re: Interesting Rumor Concerning General Carter Ham and Stand Down Order (Posted on 10/27/12 at 7:46 am to Wild Thang)
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it will be after the election. That's been the plan all along.
I just saw a news interview with Obama in which the report asked him....
"Why are you waiting until after the election to get down to the bottom of what happened in Benghazi?"
And of course, Obama dodged the question completely
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