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Rex
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this is why it pisses me off so much when Decatour, Rex, DA and Col Toddy

Decatur, Rex, DA and Col Toddy don't automatically believe bull shite from an Obama hater.


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Let me go on the record here for DA, Rex, Decator, et al: If this had happened under George W. Bush's administration or any other administration, I would be calling for his impeachment, imprisonment and execution. I desire the same fate for Barack Obama. This is the worst American political/military scandal of the New Millennium.


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Decatur, Rex, DA and Col Toddy don't automatically believe bull shite from an Obama hater.



Yes there are some people on this board that are coming up with ridiculous theories and I understand why you should be wary of those.

But you are using that to distract from the main point...we got attacked by terrorist on the anniversary of 9/11. Its a big deal, and it's maddening that all these facts have to trickle out and not get reported by the media.

We have no way of getting the truth because we can't really believe anything the White House says. I mean frick at least CNN just walked in and found the Stevens' diary and refused to listen to the White House demand they not publish it.

You can whine all they want about it being "politicized" during an election time...well tough shite because it happened and its current news and the American people deserve answers. The families of the men who died deserve answers.

Whether it was Obama, Clinton, or someone else...someone needs to be held accountable. You make it seem as if the administration should take no blame or fault for this.
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It is clear there was a major frick up, and it came under Obama's whether they like it or not. He deserves to be held accountable, and he isn't
The buck stops at the top. At least, it's supposed to. And all those along the way to the top who facilitated this fiasco should be held accountable as well.

It makes me mad as hell and gut-sick.


SmackoverHawg
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I hope this is true. It gives me hope that at least some of our military leaders are men of honor and true patriots. General Rodriguez can go f#$k himself. If I were him and I was told to relieve General Ham, I would have told Obama to eat shite.


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Wild Thang
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Decatur, Rex, DA and Col Toddy don't automatically believe bull shite from an Obama hater.




fricking losers who can't face facts. Sad Americans IMO.


SmackoverHawg
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fricking losers who can't face facts. Sad Americans IMO.

Unfortunately, an ever growing segment of our population falls into this category.


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Sentrius
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fricking losers who can't face facts. Sad Americans IMO.




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RTR America
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re: Interesting Rumor Concerning General Carter Ham and Stand Down Order
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Yes there are some people on this board that are coming up with ridiculous theories and I understand why you should be wary of those.

But you are using that to distract from the main point...we got attacked by terrorist on the anniversary of 9/11. Its a big deal, and it's maddening that all these facts have to trickle out and not get reported by the media.


Exact point made by Rush on the radio today. He said he has heard all of these conspiracy theories, but that it is all taking away from the real issues at hand. There is enough already there to not pay attention to these conspiracy theories.


Kracktastic
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Any chance we get to hear from Ham anytime soon?


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Eighteen
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Exact point made by Rush on the radio today. He said he has heard all of these conspiracy theories, but that it is all taking away from the real issues at hand. There is enough already there to not pay attention to these conspiracy theories.



I don't listen to Rush but I am glad he said that. The fringe right needs to stop being ridiculous because the truth is the most damning part of all of this...there doesn't need to be a conspiracy.


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I seriously doubt the lid stays on this until 11/6. Someone is going to get the word out. This is too damned fricked up to keep quiet.



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El Josey Wales
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I am a retired military officer and the only time you would ever leave someone like that, without responding is POLITICS. Ever.





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RTR America
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We do not need conspiracy theories to explain what happened in Libya - Transcript

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In either of these two scenarios, you still have secret operations being planned, orchestrated, and executed by the Obama administration for what purpose? Certainly not America's national interests. Both of these theories are to please others. Then you have what is more likely here, and that is simply the campaign determining that any kind of terror outbreak in the midst of this election, so close to the election, cannot possibly help. So action has to be taken to just pretend that it isn't happening. And if we can't contain that, then we'll come up with a phony reason why it's happening, which will always end up being America's fault somehow.

No matter which of these three you choose to believe, there isn't one of them that makes this regime look any good. For me, I don't need any conspiracy theory. The facts alone here that we know are sufficient. Folks, I have known since January 16th of 2009 that we were headed for trouble. I have known since the campaign of 2008 we were headed for trouble if Obama was ever elected. This is 9/11. We have the facts on the ground. We've got people claiming credit for this. We have the terror organization that's responsible for this claiming credit. We had every bit of evidence we needed to respond to this. We had every bit of intel, every provocation to respond to this. And this is when you double back to the families. The families don't look at this politically, and they don't understand it, and they don't like it. So they're going public with it.


Wild Thang
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This is 9/11. We have the facts on the ground. We've got people claiming credit for this. We have the terror organization that's responsible for this claiming credit. We had every bit of evidence we needed to respond to this. We had every bit of intel, every provocation to respond to this. And this is when you double back to the families. The families don't look at this politically, and they don't understand it, and they don't like it. So they're going public with it.


Total truth.


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USMCTiger03
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re: Interesting Rumor Concerning General Carter Ham and Stand Down Order
Okay, I'm gonna say it, was Ambassador Stevens supposed to die?


GRTiger
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What is the official reason Ham was replaced?


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boxcarbarney
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was Ambassador Stevens supposed to die?


go on....


SportTiger1
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Okay, I'm gonna say it, was Ambassador Stevens supposed to die?


Man I hope to god this is not even remotely true. BUT there is something missing in all this.

PS. It brings a tear to my eye thinking of these seals risking their life to go RESCUE 30+ people. And it makes me want to puke for knowing they were begging for backup and someone, somewhere, saying....naaaaah.


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