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iluvdatiger
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interesting notes from wiki

In Rumplestiltskin's castle was the scythe featured near the end of the final season of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, albeit colored differently. In episode 8 the true name of "The Dark One" is Zoso which is also one of the symbols in the album Led Zeppelin IV.[34]
Henry has a Tron lunch box and Regina gave him a handheld video game device upon which he played Space Paranoids.
In the episode "Skin Deep," Mr. Gold confiscates a florist's truck which reads 'Game of Thorns' on the side, being a reference to Game of Thrones.

In the episode "Lady of the Lake," two significant allusions are seen. The first is to the Narnian series in which the "wardrobe" is the only portal

The other allusion is to the story of David and Goliath; Snow kills the ogre, "Goliath," in the eye.






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TheBiggestSpur
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also, I think I saw a Game of Thrones reference in this episode


A Game of Thorns is the name of the Florist shop that Belle's father runs. He had it written on his truck in the first season.






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The other allusion is to the story of David and Goliath; Snow kills the ogre, "Goliath," in the eye.


Wouldn't read much into this show from a religious angle. As much as I would love to see Aslan roll up in the joint and lay down the law, I don't see it happening at all.

A wildcard for the show is Oz and that whole lot. Disney owns the Oz rights now and they have their Oz: The Great and Powerful coming out next spring.






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BaddestAndvari
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A wildcard for the show is Oz and that whole lot. Disney owns the Oz rights now and they have their Oz: The Great and Powerful coming out next spring


I have always sensed that there is a greater evil than anything we have seen to this point.. could the "greater evil" be Oz himself..?

Whatever it is, it's going to be an ancient evil.. maybe something, or someone, that created the Dark One, the Ogres, the Rathes etc. to begin with?






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Interested to see how well Rene from True Blood is as Rump's son


wait. what? I missed something apparently.

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Bae came to Earth. We saw Bae in the first scene of the season


And I missed this.

Damn. I need to pay better attention.



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ATLienTiger
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The guy walking down the streets of NYC who dropped his iphone out his window who got a postcard from a white bird about storybrooke





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The guy walking down the streets of NYC who dropped his iphone out his window who got a postcard from a white bird about storybrooke


How do we know that was Bae? Not disputing your account, just wondering if I missed something.






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ATLienTiger
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that was Renee from True Blood is what I was saying. No clue who he is in the series, but the common thought is he's Rumpelstiltskin's son.





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TheBiggestSpur
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Yeah he had dark hair and the guy who plays him is in his late 30's. Bae was what? 11? 12? the last time we saw him. He's probably been in NYC for about 30ish years now.





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that was Renee from True Blood is what I was saying. No clue who he is in the series, but the common thought is he's Rumpelstiltskin's son.


Oh ok. I gotcha.






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BaddestAndvari
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Yeah he had dark hair and the guy who plays him is in his late 30's. Bae was what? 11? 12? the last time we saw him. He's probably been in NYC for about 30ish years now.


I thought that might be the case as well, here's the crazy thing though.. Bae would have been in the early years of Gold's years as the dark one. When he saw Regina years upon years later, Rumpelstiltskin said he knew Regina as a little girl.. that means Bae would have HAD to of been teleported to the same time frame as the Fairy Talers were.. but 100+ years before, in fairy tale land?! I hope they address that, IF it ends up being Bae.






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do i need to get into this show?





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TheBiggestSpur
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Rumpelstiltskin said he knew Regina as a little girl.


He could have been messing with her. I'm sure it will be explained at some point.






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do i need to get into this show?


that's a very hard question to answer.. to be honest, I wasn't sure if I would like it or not, it's got its pretty girly parts (it's about princes and princesses so yeah..) and the writing can be extremely cheesy, but I actually enjoy it, and have even found myself caring for certain characters more than even my wife does.. but yeah, it's just one of those "try and see" shows. It's more of a yuri and BA show.. and less of Fear and CP3 show if that makes sense?






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ooooh ok. I must not have realized it was Rene.

And I had already forgotten about that scene. Bae makes sense...but I guess we shall see!






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iluvdatiger
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Wouldn't read much into this show from a religious angle


If they are including bible characters, the writers definitely think the bible is more fairy tale and less religious.






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If they are including bible characters, the writers definitely think the bible is more fairy tale and less religious.


I don't see any biblical characters in the show at all. Pretty much every character has had a place in the Disney history with Emma and Henry being the exceptions.






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iluvdatiger
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non disney allusions include:

as a nod to the ties between the production teams of Once Upon a Time and Lost, the new show contains allusions to Lost, and is expected to be a continuing theme throughout the series.[19][33] For example, many items found in the Lost universe, such as Apollo candy bars, Oceanic Airlines, and MacCutcheon Whisky, can be seen in Once Upon a Time.[34] The town clock was stuck at 8:15, an allusion to Flight 815 from the Lost universe. An Ultimate Wolverine vs. Hulk #3 comic read by the character Henry in episode 9 of season 1 was written by Lost executive producer Damon Lindelof. In addition, former cast members of Lost have made recurring appearances on the series, with Emilie de Ravin being the first post-Lost regular to become a full-time regular on Once Upon a Time.

In "What Happened to Frederick" where Henry is given Space Paranoids, a reference to the film Tron, whose logo can also be seen in Henry's lunchbox in "The Stranger".

In Rumplestiltskin's castle was the scythe featured near the end of the final season of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, albeit colored differently. In episode 8 the true name of "The Dark One" is Zoso which is also one of the symbols in the album Led Zeppelin IV.[34]

In the episode "Lady of the Lake," two significant allusions are seen. The first is to the Narnian series in which the "wardrobe" is the only portal. The other allusion is to the story of David and Goliath; Snow kills the ogre, "Goliath," in the eye.




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I didn't read the ogre scene as religious at all because there were at one time tons of ogres in the "ogre wars" mentioned previously. To me I didn't think of it any differently as when they stab the zombies in the eye socket in Walking Dead. It's just the easiest way to kill that particular thing.





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TheBiggestSpur
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iluvdatiger


You've posted that before deary. I never heard them call the ogre Goliath. That sounds like a heavy heavy reach. Like I said, no biblical characters are in the show. Sure they have references to outside stuff like Lost (former show on the same network), the GOT reference (popular show/best on tv), and Tron (Disney property), but all of the characters are part of some Disney canon except for Emma and Henry.






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