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RTR America  Alabama Fan Memphis, TN Member since Aug 2012 3612 posts

| Fact Checking Biden: Seventeen Lies (Posted on 10/12/12 at 10:57 am)
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LIE #1: BIDEN CLAIMED THE WHITE HOUSE DIDN’T KNOW THE LIBYAN EMBASSY WANTED MORE SECURITY: “MAYBE BIDEN WAS TOO BUSY IN DEBATE PREP…”
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LIE #2: BIDEN CLAIMED MEDICARE’S ACTUARY DID NOT SAY HOSPITALS WOULD GO OUT OF BUSINESS DUE TO OBAMACARE’S CUTS TO MEDICARE
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LIE #3: BIDEN CLAIMED HIS PREDECESSOR’S POLICIES CAUSED THE RECESSION
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LIE #4: BIDEN CLAIMED THE JOINT CHIEFS SUPPORTED OBAMA’S TIMETABLE FOR REMOVING SURGE TROOPS FROM IRAQ
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LIE #5: BIDEN PUSHED BACK ON THE ACCUSATION THAT THE ADMINISTRATION CALLED SYRIA DICTATOR ASSAD A REFORMER
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LIE #6: BIDEN LIED ABOUT THE ADMINISTRATION’S ABILITY TO GET UNEMPLOYMENT BELOW 6 PERCENT
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LIE #7: BIDEN GROSSLY MISREPRESENTED GOV. ROMNEY’S TAX PLAN
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LIE#8: BIDEN LIED ABOUT OBAMA’S PLANS FOR AFGHANISTAN WITHDRAWAL
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LIE #9: BIDEN CLAIMED THERE WAS NO WASTE OR ABUSE OF STIMULUS MONEY
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LIE #10: BIDEN CLAIMED THE ADMINISTRATION SAVED MONEY FROM MEDICARE AND PUT IT BACK IN THE PROGRAM
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LIE #11: BIDEN CLAIMED OBAMACARE WOULD NOT REQUIRE RELIGIOUS GROUPS TO COVER CONTRACEPTIVES
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LIE #12: BIDEN CLAIMED ROMNEY WOULDN’T “ MOVE HEAVEN AND EARTH TO GET BIN LADEN “
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LIE #13: BIDEN CLAIMED ROMNEY WANTED DETROIT TO GO BANKRUPT
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LIE #14: BIDEN CLAIMED RYAN’S BUDGET CUTS WERE TO BLAME FOR THE LACK OF EMBASSY SECURITY
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LIE #15: BIDEN CLAIMED RYAN’S BUDGET WOULD COST SENIORS AN EXTRA $6,400
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LIE #16: BIDEN CLAIMED OBAMA ONLY WANTS TO RAISE TAXES ON MILLIONAIRES
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LIE #17: BIDEN CLAIMED OBAMA RESCUED THE AUTO INDUSTRY

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Tactical1  New Orleans Saints Fan Denham Springs Member since May 2010 9199 posts
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| re: Fact Checking Biden: Seventeen Lies (Posted on 10/12/12 at 10:58 am to RTR America)
All caps? Seriously?
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RTR America  Alabama Fan Memphis, TN Member since Aug 2012 3612 posts

| re: Fact Checking Biden: Seventeen Lies (Posted on 10/12/12 at 11:02 am to Tactical1)
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All caps? Seriously?
Just copied from the article. Hope you enjoy having an untruthful, arrogant arse as VP for another 3 weeks.
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Catman88  LSU Fan Baton Rouge, LA Member since Dec 2004 36377 posts

| re: Fact Checking Biden: Seventeen Lies (Posted on 10/12/12 at 11:03 am to Tactical1)
Well it was coming from Biden so makes sense that it would be all caps.
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Catman88  LSU Fan Baton Rouge, LA Member since Dec 2004 36377 posts

| re: Fact Checking Biden: Seventeen Lies (Posted on 10/12/12 at 11:04 am to RTR America)
How was the whole Malarkey comment not counted as a lie?
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Fat Bastard  New Orleans Saints Fan Paradise Member since Mar 2009 13493 posts

| re: Fact Checking Biden: Seventeen Lies (Posted on 10/12/12 at 11:09 am to Tactical1)
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All caps? Seriously?
GREAT REBUTTAL!!!!!!! 
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Tactical1  New Orleans Saints Fan Denham Springs Member since May 2010 9199 posts
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| re: Fact Checking Biden: Seventeen Lies (Posted on 10/12/12 at 11:10 am to RTR America)
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Hope you enjoy having an untruthful, arrogant arse as VP for another 3 weeks.
Whatever makes you sleep at night. Half of your "lies" are pure opinion.
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RTR America  Alabama Fan Memphis, TN Member since Aug 2012 3612 posts

| re: Fact Checking Biden: Seventeen Lies (Posted on 10/12/12 at 11:14 am to Tactical1)
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Half of your "lies" are pure opinion.
Which ones? Reasons? Link?
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Catman88  LSU Fan Baton Rouge, LA Member since Dec 2004 36377 posts

| re: Fact Checking Biden: Seventeen Lies (Posted on 10/12/12 at 11:16 am to RTR America)
Ohh shite.. He just pull a Malarkey on you! Thus he does not have to give examples or any reason to his comment at all. First person to pull a Malarkey in an argument wins.. There is no counter to the Malarkey. Its over.
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BeeFense5  Notre Dame Fan New Orleans Member since Jul 2010 15829 posts
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| re: Fact Checking Biden: Seventeen Lies (Posted on 10/12/12 at 11:17 am to Tactical1)
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Half of your "lies" are pure opinion.
So it's cool that half are opinions but the others are lies? Sounds totally legit. He only lied half the time. No problem at all.
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Monkey arms  LSU Fan Baton Rouge Member since May 2012 159 posts

| re: Fact Checking Biden: Seventeen Lies (Posted on 10/12/12 at 11:18 am to RTR America)
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quote: LIE #3: BIDEN CLAIMED HIS PREDECESSOR’S POLICIES CAUSED THE RECESSION
Ryan admitted that Obama didn't cause the recession.
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Did they inherit a bad situation, absolutely.
@ 3:10 in the clip As for the rest of the op, you should learn how to fact check for yourself as it is very time consuming and I don't feel like finding 17 fricking links. Here's a tip, don't believe everything you read on the interweb.
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Fat Bastard  New Orleans Saints Fan Paradise Member since Mar 2009 13493 posts

| re: Fact Checking Biden: Seventeen Lies (Posted on 10/12/12 at 11:18 am to BeeFense5)
LYIN' JOE BIDEN
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ironsides  LSU Fan new york, ny Member since May 2006 4406 posts

| re: Fact Checking Biden: Seventeen Lies (Posted on 10/12/12 at 11:18 am to BeeFense5)
Million billion!
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Catman88  LSU Fan Baton Rouge, LA Member since Dec 2004 36377 posts

| re: Fact Checking Biden: Seventeen Lies (Posted on 10/12/12 at 11:19 am to Monkey arms)
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quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- quote: LIE #3: BIDEN CLAIMED HIS PREDECESSOR’S POLICIES CAUSED THE RECESSION -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ryan admitted that Obama didn't cause the recession.
Wait what? What does that have to do with: BIDEN CLAIMED HIS PREDECESSOR’S POLICIES CAUSED THE RECESSION
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Fat Bastard  New Orleans Saints Fan Paradise Member since Mar 2009 13493 posts

| re: Fact Checking Biden: Seventeen Lies (Posted on 10/12/12 at 11:20 am to Monkey arms)
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and I don't feel like finding 17 fricking links.
riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight
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RTR America  Alabama Fan Memphis, TN Member since Aug 2012 3612 posts

| re: Fact Checking Biden: Seventeen Lies (Posted on 10/12/12 at 11:21 am to Monkey arms)
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quote: quote: LIE #3: BIDEN CLAIMED HIS PREDECESSOR’S POLICIES CAUSED THE RECESSION Ryan admitted that Obama didn't cause the recession. quote: Did they inherit a bad situation, absolutely. @ 3:10 in the clip As for the rest of the op, you should learn how to fact check for yourself as it is very time consuming and I don't feel like finding 17 fricking links. Here's a tip, don't believe everything you read on the interweb.
THE CLAIM: Biden Claimed The Recession Was Caused By The War Spending, Medicare Drug Benefit, And Tax Cuts. BIDEN: “And, by the way, they talk about this Great Recession if it fell out of the sky, like, ‘Oh, my goodness, where did it come from?’ It came from this man [Ryan] voting to put two wars on a credit card, to at the same time put a prescription drug benefit on the credit card, a trillion-dollar tax cut for the very wealthy. I was there. I voted against them. I said, ‘No, we can’t afford that.’” (Vice President Joe Biden, Vice Presidential Debate, Danville, KY, 10/11/12) THE FACTS: “Biden Was Reaching… The Downturn Was Primarily Due To The Collapse Of Financial Markets.” “Biden was reaching. While many factors contributed to the deep recession between December, 2007 and June 2009, the downturn was primarily due to the collapse of financial markets amid a tidal wave of bad debts, over borrowing by consumers and businesses and a wildly over-valued housing market.” (“Fact Check: US Vice Presidential Debate,” Reuters, 10/12/12) Also Biden voted for all 3 things he said caused the recession It's one link 
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Catman88  LSU Fan Baton Rouge, LA Member since Dec 2004 36377 posts

| re: Fact Checking Biden: Seventeen Lies (Posted on 10/12/12 at 11:22 am to RTR America)
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Ryan admitted that Obama didn't cause the recession
I just dont get why he even used this comment.. Makes no sense. Of course OBAMA didnt cause the recession. That does not make what Biden said true in any way shape or form.
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Tactical1  New Orleans Saints Fan Denham Springs Member since May 2010 9199 posts
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| re: Fact Checking Biden: Seventeen Lies (Posted on 10/12/12 at 11:32 am to RTR America)
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Which ones? Reasons? Link?
I really wouldn't confuse "fact checking" (if that's is what you want to call this) with basically "quote checking" Seriously, Here are lies that Ryan has told. You can do this sort of thing all day long. LINK
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Monkey arms  LSU Fan Baton Rouge Member since May 2012 159 posts

| re: Fact Checking Biden: Seventeen Lies (Posted on 10/12/12 at 11:34 am to Catman88)
The implication of quote:
quote: LIE #3: BIDEN CLAIMED HIS PREDECESSOR’S POLICIES CAUSED THE RECESSION
is that the recession was caused by the current admin. Am I reading that wrong?
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RTR America  Alabama Fan Memphis, TN Member since Aug 2012 3612 posts

| re: Fact Checking Biden: Seventeen Lies (Posted on 10/12/12 at 11:38 am to Tactical1)
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I really wouldn't confuse "fact checking" (if that's is what you want to call this) with basically "quote checking" Seriously, Here are lies that Ryan has told. You can do this sort of thing all day long.
6 that are truly opinion based. Open that link you will notice that every one is backed up by multiple news outlets.
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