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Rickdaddy4188 
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| re: Saban vs. Belichick (Posted on 10/11/12 at 2:51 am to I Love Bama)
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You think this years Ole Miss team is the same as last years?
No but, you struggled to put up 35 on a team Texas dropped 60 on. Bama isn't better than they were last year. Ole miss shouldn't be scoring 14 against you guy and basically shutting you down the entire 2nd half.
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Rickdaddy4188
LSU Fan
Murfreesboro,TN
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| re: Saban vs. Belichick (Posted on 10/11/12 at 2:52 am to VerlanderBEAST)
Laugh all you want but 3 national titles in 4 years is a very rare thing. Especially now being that there is more parity in CfB than ever before.
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VerlanderBEAST 
Michigan Fan
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| re: Saban vs. Belichick (Posted on 10/11/12 at 3:05 am to Rickdaddy4188)
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Laugh all you want but 3 national titles in 4 years is a very rare thing.
Can we stop touting National titles? Its a popularity contest thats it.
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bomber77 
Ohio State Fan
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Member since Aug 2008
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| re: Saban vs. Belichick (Posted on 10/11/12 at 5:39 am to 504Voodoo)
Saban is a great college coach because he is a great recruiter. That's really what the college game is about IMO.
Despite what Saban lovers say he was a horrific NFL coach. Had zero respect in the locker room. He tried his college ways with NFL players and coaches. He really was a laughing stock.
It just wasn't his game.
BB is in another league. One of the leagues best coaches ever. That being said, I don't know how good he would be at the college level. I can't imagine Bill going through all the recruiting crap. He would hate that shite.
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genro 
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| re: Saban vs. Belichick (Posted on 10/11/12 at 5:52 am to VerlanderBEAST)
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Can we stop touting National titles? Its a popularity contest thats it.
So Alabama didn't deserve the NC in 2009? At the end of the regular season, there were three major undefeated teams: Florida, Texas, and Alabama. Bama beat Florida, then Texas. How can you not call them the Champs?
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Nativebullet
LSU Fan
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Member since Feb 2011
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| re: Saban vs. Belichick (Posted on 10/11/12 at 6:13 am to Papa Tigah)
Both, ...... Saban.
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VerlanderBEAST
Michigan Fan
Member since Dec 2011
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| re: Saban vs. Belichick (Posted on 10/11/12 at 6:38 am to genro)
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So Alabama didn't deserve the NC in 2009? At the end of the regular season, there were three major undefeated teams: Florida, Texas, and Alabama. Bama beat Florida, then Texas. How can you not call them the Champs?
Cincinnati, TCU and Boise were all undefeated. But even if Bama was the undefeated and everyone else had 3 losses it would still be a popularity contest because its decided by an opinion poll.
This post was edited on 10/11 at 6:39 am
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Govt Tide
Member since Nov 2009
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| re: Saban vs. Belichick (Posted on 10/11/12 at 7:24 am to VerlanderBEAST)
We can stop touting national championships as soon as we stop touting Big Ten championships. Michigan State won a share of the Big Ten championship in 2010 and lost 49-7 to the 5th best SEC team that year. Conference championships mean very little in bad leagues. At least with a national title you have to beat a #1 or #2 ranked team to win it all.
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TT9 
Alabama Fan
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| re: Saban vs. Belichick (Posted on 10/11/12 at 7:41 am to VerlanderBEAST)
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VerlanderBEAST
a straight up idiot here folks.
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SlowFlowPro 
Stanford Fan
Equality is a circle, not a =
Member since Jan 2004
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| re: Saban vs. Belichick (Posted on 10/11/12 at 7:50 am to TT9)
water is wet 
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Ross 
Auburn Fan
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| re: Saban vs. Belichick (Posted on 10/11/12 at 7:56 am to VerlanderBEAST)
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Saban won't go down as one of the 10 greatest coaches in college football history.
wtf?
He absolutely will.
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VerlanderBEAST
Michigan Fan
Member since Dec 2011
8267 posts
| re: Saban vs. Belichick (Posted on 10/11/12 at 8:02 am to Govt Tide)
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We can stop touting national championships as soon as we stop touting Big Ten championships. Michigan State won a share of the Big Ten championship in 2010 and lost 49-7 to the 5th best SEC team that year. Conference championships mean very little in bad leagues. At least with a national title you have to beat a #1 or #2 ranked team to win it all.
Conference championships are objective. MNCs are subjective. You can argue who has the prettiest jersey all day I'll focus on the wins and losses
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SlowFlowPro
Stanford Fan
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| re: Saban vs. Belichick (Posted on 10/11/12 at 8:04 am to VerlanderBEAST)
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Conference championships are objective.
their value is completely subjective
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You can argue who has the prettiest jersey all day I'll focus on the wins and losses
not all wins are equal, though
and let's not forget the issues with the NFL playoffs, namely the fact that too many teams are allowed in. take the Giants last year. they're not even close to being the best team all year, but they're the champs. NFL titles really don't tell you the whole story, either
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VerlanderBEAST
Michigan Fan
Member since Dec 2011
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| re: Saban vs. Belichick (Posted on 10/11/12 at 8:10 am to SlowFlowPro)
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their value is completely subjective
It means you were objectively the best team in your conference nothing subjective about that.
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not all wins are equal, though
Yeah winning at a perennial loser like Kansas State is far far more impressive than winning at a blue blood like Alabama.
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SlowFlowPro
Stanford Fan
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| re: Saban vs. Belichick (Posted on 10/11/12 at 8:16 am to VerlanderBEAST)
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It means you were objectively the best team in your conference nothing subjective about that.
well that's not ALWAYS true, but is true the vast majority of the time. but that's not what i said
their value is subjective. if you win the big10 this year, it doesn't really mean much. the big10 sucks
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Yeah winning at a perennial loser like Kansas State is far far more impressive than winning at a blue blood like Alabama.
i don't think many people deny bill snyder's greatness
that wasn't the point though. winning 6 games against the sun belt isn't the same as winning 6 games in the SEC
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hiltacular 
Georgia Tech Fan
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Member since Jan 2011
5889 posts
| re: Saban vs. Belichick (Posted on 10/11/12 at 8:18 am to VerlanderBEAST)
So you are just going to completely dismiss Sabans entire body of work (including all of his national championships) bc he coaches at a very good football program???
Apparently conference championships are now more important than national championships??? And winning the mwc is now equal to winning the sec???
Where are you going with all of this? You are spewing crap.
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dukke v
LSU Fan
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| re: Saban vs. Belichick (Posted on 10/11/12 at 8:24 am to VerlanderBEAST)
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Cincinnati, TCU and Boise were all undefeated. But even if Bama was the undefeated and everyone else had 3 losses it would still be a popularity contest because its decided by an opinion poll.
So I guess we can say that Michigans NC in 1997 is not a legit title.
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VABuckeye
Ohio State Fan
Oak Hill, VA
Member since Dec 2007
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| re: Saban vs. Belichick (Posted on 10/11/12 at 8:28 am to Govt Tide)
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Woody's Ohio State program was Alabama's prison bitch in his only head to head meeting against Bear Bryant.
Because one game defines a program and a 26 year career. That's a stupid fricking statement you made right there. Alabama was the better team by far that day.
BTW, Woody is credited with five national championships. How many does Saban have again?
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AllBamaDoesIsWin
Alabama Fan
Member since Dec 2011
9577 posts
| re: Saban vs. Belichick (Posted on 10/11/12 at 8:43 am to VerlanderBEAST)
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It means you were objectively the best team in your conference nothing subjective about that.
WRONG. LSU won the SEC last year, but Bama was better than LSU.
"LSU won against Bama."
How'd that work out when Bama was ready for JJ?
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AllBamaDoesIsWin
Alabama Fan
Member since Dec 2011
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| re: Saban vs. Belichick (Posted on 10/11/12 at 8:47 am to Rickdaddy4188)
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No but, you struggled to put up 35 on a team Texas dropped 60 on. Bama isn't better than they were last year. Ole miss shouldn't be scoring 14 against you guy and basically shutting you down the entire 2nd half.
Our Offense is, and I know exactly what you're saying. Our third quarter performance says otherwise. OM had the ball almost the entire quarter. They were moving the ball on our D with their hurry up attack. We didn't have much time to get going after halftime until later in the game.
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Ole miss shouldn't be scoring 1
Towson dropped 22 on you. One is a shitty FCS team, the other is in the SEC West.
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