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From a legal standpount you are wrong simple as that. Its noy even a matter of opinion.


Again. We are talking about the person being arrested. In both cases they have no idea why they are getting cuffed. In both cases they are wrongfully arrested, booked, and often charged. All because of the officer's error.






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That sucks.

I had a couple of bad run ins with police in my teen years.

All of them 'mistakes' on their part.
I was once pulled over by seven cars at gunpoint right after pulling out of Taco Bell (in fact my friend ran that Taco bell and I had him stall us and watch the police on the cameras cause we knew something was coming.

After being thrown to the ground, and before my get out of jail free card was displayed*, I was told my passenger didn't have a seat belt the cop said he decided to follow me, after about a mile I made a U-turn and a series of turns and the cop thought I was trying to evade him. When in reality I was going to drop off my text book and notes (I was in High School) and I had made a wrong turn.
It was dark as hell and I saw the police officer in the McDonald's parking lot when I passed. I saw him pull behind me, but he didn't follow me through the U-turn.

So after I was thrown on the ground, my back seat passenger yelled out his Dad was the duty Seargent. Within ten minutes I had a whiteshirt out there aploogizing to me and making the officer apologize. He was berated for making a felony stop and calling in a "possible stolen car". When the plate checked out and I wan't even given a chance to provide documentation before being rough housed over a freaking seat belt.

I was 17 and had a new car and stuck out, I guess. But that was just shitty, and very bad police work on the initial traffic officer's part. He should have just pulled me over, not followed me, or subjected a kid to multiple guns in his face.

This was before I had smoked pot or done any crime for which I would resent the police. But that incident made me somewhat fearful of the police.

Then again I have friends in the force, and have had many good encounters. But the bad ones always stick.

I also once had my neck grabbed and head slammed by a cop in an elevator at the Superdome for calling the cop an a-hole. He had just thrown Ghetto Eddie against a wall for having sagging pants, and I said "don't be an a-hole, you don't have to thrown him against a wall"

Of course when I got grabbed I started spewing off, but still I got injured, and ejected from the game.










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That's kind of sad. Felony stops are supposed to be much more controlled if the subject is compliant. There is not throwing someone to the ground.





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Sobering...

thanks for posting.






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Are you stupid or are you merely pretending?


There is a fundamental difference between a leo arresting a suspect who turns out to be innocent and a leo arresting someone without any reason whatsoever.

What the suspect thinks is irrelevant. It is entirely based on the officers good faith.

Its no different than if a cop has a no knock warrant for 212 spring road and serves that warrant only to realize that the address was mistyped and the address eas supposed to read 221 spring road that cop dd nothing wrong.

But if that same cop was just toodling down the road and just decided on his own to kick in the door and search 212 spring road then hes in the wrong.

Please, if youre truly so stupid that you cant grasp the difference. Dont bother responding.






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Are you stupid or are you merely pretending? There is a fundamental difference between a leo arresting a suspect who turns out to be innocent and a leo arresting someone without any reason whatsoever.


How do they "turn out to be innocent" when they were innocent in the first place?

Again, the officers poor judgement and decision, in "good faith" or not still harms the innocent and yet there are no consequences for the officer because he was "acting in good faith".






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Are you serious? So you exoect cops to never arrest the wrong person and are willing to forego jury trials as well?


Ps like it ot not many a guilty person has been found not guilty by a jury. Does that mean the cops shouldnt have srrestes them?

Pps most arrests the arrestin officer doesnt even know the curcumstances. Hes just serving a warrant. Ie guy gets pulled over for speeding dispatcher tells officer he has a felony warrant. Hes arrested. Arresting officer is not responsible for whether the warrant is valid or not. He acted in good faith.

Im now convinved youre just being stupid when it comes to cops so im done discussing it with you.






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Golfer
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Where did we go from serving warrants to the cop's complete bastardization of the law?

Person commits and act, officer thinks its illegal. Cuffs them and they are booked.

Act is actually legal. Person must hire an attorney to defend themselves.

Pathetic.






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Cops are getting dumber, more arrogant, and more power crazy.
This statement could not be any more off. Thats how shite was done in the old days. When cops dgaf about your rights and being a smart arse got your teeth knocked out by a mag light. "You fear me therefore you make sure you walk the line". Law Enforcement has come a long way since those days and unlike what many think, will only get better, not worse.






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Anyone have a link to that study that shows the education level of a police officer is at its lowest in a long time?

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When cops dgaf about your rights and being a smart arse got your teeth knocked out by a mag light.

Now it gets you searched, arrested, and put in a holding tank. Then charged with some bull shite requiring you to hire a lawyer and spedn lots of time and money fighting to prove your innoce3nt of something you never should have been charged with anyway. I guess that's better?

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"You fear me therefore you make sure you walk the line".

Still there motto. Did you listen to that audio. He almost said this word for word.

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Law Enforcement has come a long way since those days and unlike what many think, will only get better, not worse.


Society as a whole in America is getting worse. Why would cops get better?






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